My New #1 Hack For Zapping Inflammation, Increasing Deep Sleep & Recovering Faster—Earthing (The Most Important Health Discovery Ever?)

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I recently read the book Earthing: The Most Important Health Discovery Ever! (and my twin boys also watched the accompanying documentary “THE EARTHING MOVIE“).

Although I already knew about the importance of having an intimate connection with the planet we live upon, this book blew my mind when it comes to identifying one of the best solutions for chronic inflammation, better sleep, enhanced deep sleep, and much more. Since reading it, I've been traveling everywhere with my grounding sleeping mat, wearing my Earth Runners every day, and my boys have barely even touched their shoes. In the book, author Clint Ober introduces the planet's powerful, amazing, and overlooked natural healing energy and how people anywhere can readily connect to it. This never-before-told story—filled with fascinating research and real-life testimonials—chronicles a discovery with the potential to create a global health revolution.

So obviously, I had to get Clint on the show!

Clint Ober is the innovator behind the Grounding Movement & CEO of Earth FX Inc., a research and development company located in Palm Springs, California. A series of seemingly unrelated synchronistic events dating back to his early childhood led to a groundbreaking discovery that’s being recognized as the greatest health discovery of all time.

Grounding has now become a massive international movement—causing people to shed their shoes and reconnect electrically to the surface of the Earth.

Clint first learned about grounding when installing cable TV systems in Billings, Montana in the early 1960s. A decade later, he formed Telecrafter Corporation and built it into the largest provider of cable installation services in the United States. This company specialized in the proper grounding of cable installations for safety and TV signal stability.

In the 1980s, he turned his attention to the developing computer industry and partnered with McGraw-Hill to distribute live digital news services, via cable, to PCs. This led to the development of the first cable modem and an increased awareness of the need for proper system grounding.

Following a health challenge in 1995, Clint retired and embarked on a personal journey looking for a higher purpose in life. During his travels, he noticed people wearing plastic and rubber-soled shoes that insulate the body from Earth. He wondered if no longer being naturally grounded could affect us. The question led to an experiment that suggested grounding alone reduced chronic pain and improved sleep.

Thereafter, he developed a working hypothesis: Grounding the human body to the Earth normalizes the functioning of all of the body’s systems ​—​ the body utilizes the earth’s electrical potential and free electrons to maintain its internal electrical stability, normalizing all of its self-regulating and self-healing systems. Over the past twenty years, he has supported over 20 research studies* that collectively demonstrate that grounding reduces inflammation and promotes normal functioning of all body systems.

During this discussion, you'll discover:

-How Clint became interested in the concept of earthing…7:45

  • Clint grew up in rural Montana; childhood friends were Native Americans
  • One of his jobs growing up was to take care of cows on the pasture and to troubleshoot if one of the cows fell ill
  • “If the pasture is pristine, the cows will be healthy”
  • This instilled a prevention mentality: look at the cause, not the symptoms
  • Spent 30 years in the communications industry which taught the basic fundamentals of grounding
  • Came down with an infected liver after a root canal and was deathly ill
  • He underwent an experimental operation which removed a good portion of the liver
  • After 6 months, the liver had regrown to its normal size
  • This caused a shift in perspective and priorities; live a life of more value than before
  • Gave up all his worldly possessions, bought an RV and spent lots of time in national parks
  • While in Key Largo, FL, Clint had an inspiration:
    • “Opposite charge”
    • “Status quo is the enemy”

-How a busload of Japanese tourists gave Clint his big idea regarding grounding…17:12

  • While living in Sedona, AZ, experienced problems with computer crashing; identified static electricity as the problem
  • He saw a bus full of tourists, all wearing rubber-soled shoes
  • Intuitive question: Are modern shoes preventing us from grounding with the earth?
  • Began testing the charge in the earth with a volt meter
  • Grounded himself to the earth via metal duct tape:
    • Static reading on his body went to zero
    • Slept the night without moving (was typically in a lot of pain)
    • Friends reported reduced pain, lowered arthritis
  • Like an extension cord to the earth

-The early days of Clint's clinical research on grounding the body with the Earth…23:23

  • There was very little research on how grounding with the earth reduces pain and improves sleep
  • He attempted to find answers at UCLA but was basically laughed off the campus for his ideas
  • Two doctoral students at UCLA helped him design a private study:
    • 60 participants: 30 grounded, 30 ungrounded
    • Those who were grounded reported reduced pain, better sleep, among other positive results
    • Similar results among those exposed to EMF and not exposed to EMF
  • A skeptical anesthesiologist in San Diego was willing to help with the research; he was interested in saliva cortisol levels in his patients
    • Cortisol levels went from erratic to synchronized (within a similar range) after grounding at midnight during the study
    • Cortisol spikes from 4-6 am without grounding
    • Everyone's cortisol went up beginning at 4 am (with no other environmental cues) when grounded
    • Cortisol spike is what gives motivation to get out of bed
  • The only possible change at 4 am is in the earth, as the sun is about to rise
  • Measure electric fields in bedrooms where participants were sleeping via a grounding pad
  • The earth itself equalizes the body with the earth; electrons leave the body, or come to the body from the earth
  • EMF levels had no discernible effects on two subjects; connection with the earth was the key

-What is going on in the body when a person is grounded with the Earth…33:25


  • Dr. Stephen Sinatra: “When you're reducing pain, you're reducing inflammation”
  • Led to a different understanding of inflammation
    • Inflammation is caused by neutrophils: encapsulates damaged cell and releases reactive oxygen
    • Reactive: short on electrons
  • Plastic-soled shoes prevent us from being naturally grounded to the earth
  • When you stand barefoot on the ground, the Earth is negative 20-50 millivolts
  • The Earth has negative ions from lightning and the sun
    • Noon is the high point for the sun exciting the electrons on the earth
    • Imbalance in charge beginning 2 pm (constant lightning)
    • You'll feel the effects of lightning from far away locales
    • The air feels amazing after a thunderstorm because of the negative charge in the atmosphere
  • If the body has a negative surface charge, you can't have charge in a grounded object
  • Leftover pathogens steal electrons from a healthy cell, which triggers an immune response, leading to chronic inflammation

-The mechanism of action for grounding to the earth…43:30

  • Clint and Dr. Sinatra's study had the following results (via grounding):
    • Reduced rouleaux formation (clotting) in blood cells
    • Blood cells separated perfectly after grounding for 30-40 minutes
    • Increased negative surface charge of red blood cells by a factor of 2.7
  • Red blood cells, when negatively charged, repel each other
  • Face and skin color turns pink after being grounded for 20-30 minutes
  • Better able to oxygenate the tissue
  • Mechanism of action: when you touch the earth, every cell in your body becomes negatively charged equal w/ the earth
  • Normalize blood viscosity, clean up inflammation in the body

-What our ancestors understood about earthing and grounding…48:15

  • A century ago, people in Europe were discovering the benefits of grounding, but didn't know the science behind it
  • One of the healing methods for the kidney in ancient Chinese medicine is grounding with the earth
  • Our ancestors didn't need to know about grounding; they were barefoot or wore conductive footwear

-The best surface when it comes to conductivity between the Earth and the body…50:20

  • Concrete, grass, and dirt are ideal; asphalt is not
  • Rocks are good conductors
  • Saltwater is the optimal way to ground; freshwater speeds up the process but is not itself conductive (unless it contains minerals)
  • Springwater has a natural amount of minerals
  • If you can feel the tree and it feels cool, it's grounding; bark inhibits the grounding process

-Best shoes to properly ground with the earth…53:35

-The length of time required for a person to become grounded with the Earth…57:15

  • In the 1960's, most doctor visits were for infections diseases, childbirth or acute injury
  • Today, most visits are for inflammation, autoimmune disease
  • There were no sick kids in the 60's
  • The immune system works 24/7
  • If you have pain, stay grounded until the pain disappears
  • MS patients stay grounded for up to 12 hours per day
  • Minimum effective dose: around 22 minutes, the time it takes the blood to circulate through the body
  • Put the fire out (inflammation), then let the healing mechanisms kick in

-How to know whether or not your home is grounded with the Earth…1:02:15

  • Homes built before the 1960s were not grounded; there was no need for it at the time
  • Remodels of older homes don't necessarily have grounding, even though new outlets are installed

-All grounding mats are not created equal…1:04:05

  • “Ours is an accidental business”
  • Mass production has compromised the quality and efficacy of the mats
  • It would be futile to take legal action against all the pretenders and copycats
  • Clint maintains his products are the best on the market; although he wishes more would get in the business
  • Electrical safety is the #1 priority

-The grounding patches that are an athlete's best friend…1:08:00

-And much more…

Click here for the full written transcript of this podcast episode.

Resources from this episode:

– Clint Ober:

– Gear:

– Other Resources:

Note from Ben: “I didn't even have time, today, to delve deeply into ALL of the over 20 peer-reviewed research studies that have been conducted on grounding, but I do want to at least give you a comprehensive list of the vast results that have been seen in the research, so far – impressive results have been seen when it comes to inflammation, pain, stiffness, circulation, blood pressure, blood viscosity, HRV, vagal tone, cortisol, stress, anxiety, depression, tiredness, fatigue, energy, mood, blood glucose, immunity, sleep, thyroid function, metabolism, serum electrolytes, wound healing, athletic performance and recovery, and more. There have also been anecdotal reports of improvements in autism, Parkinson’s, MS, PTSD, autoimmune conditions, and pet health, just to name a few. But I'm going to put all that below! Enjoy!”

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54 thoughts on “My New #1 Hack For Zapping Inflammation, Increasing Deep Sleep & Recovering Faster—Earthing (The Most Important Health Discovery Ever?)

  1. Mary says:

    Great information. Thanks so much!
    Does sleeping on the mat make you hot at night. As a 50+ female, sleep is elusive and often hot. Also I’m considering buying the Ooler as well but worried that the grounding mat will make me hot if I Only buy that.

  2. Mark Jones says:

    I was just wondering do cotton socks prevent proper grounding? Must the foot be completely bare?

    Also, would the anti-inflammatory effects of grounding help with treating Covid-19 symptoms (without neglecting other medically-advised treatments)?

    1. You can use cotton or wool socks with the Ground Therapy Universal Mat. The thinner the socks, the more benefit you’ll receive. That being said, socks will reduce the electron transfer to some extent, so bare skin contact will give you even more benefit than using the Ground Therapy Universal Mat with socks.

      Grounding is very beneficial for reducing inflammation and improving immune function, which is extremely helpful for everyday health or when you’re facing any wellness challenge. To receive optimal grounding benefit, use a Ground Therapy Sleep Mat and Ground Therapy Pillowcase, along with positioning two to four Ground Therapy Patches (from our Ground Therapy Patch Kit) on the chest, stomach, or temples, depending on the areas of discomfort.

      Rest and sleep is extremely important when your body is working overtime to heal. We highly suggest resting and grounding continually while taking bed rest until you are fully recovered.

      Anecdotally, we have had several people contact us who have had post COVID-19 residual issues, and they have reported significant improvement as a result of grounding.

  3. Jason says:

    Hello,

    I have a 2 year old daughter and a 7 month old son.

    My kids sleep with me and my wife on the same bed.

    Is the ground therapy sleep mat safe for my kids?

    Thank you.

    1. Absolutely! Grounding is excellent for people (and pets) of all ages! Grounding indoors is no different than swimming in the ocean, walking on the beach, running barefoot in your yard, or working in the soil with your bare hands when gardening.

      The grounding products simply connect to your home’s grounding system via your outlet’s ground port, allowing the beneficial electrons from the surface of the Earth to be transferred to you when you’re inside.

  4. Sandy says:

    I have an older sheet from your company. How do I know if it is still effective? Thank you.

    1. To test your current grounding products, you’ll need a Continuity Tester, which you can find here:
      https://www.ultimatelongevity.com/earthing-grounding/products/ground-therapy-accessories.shtml?ref=8

  5. Ralph says:

    Is there any concern for people taking blood pressure medications to use a grounding mat?

    1. Research has shown that grounding lowers inflammation and that inflammation is at the root of most modern health challenges. Additionally, research on the health benefits of grounding has shown improvements in blood pressure, blood viscosity, blood glucose, as well as thyroid, adrenal and other endocrine function. Therefore, blood thinners, blood pressure and blood glucose medications, as well as thyroid, adrenal and other hormonal medications, should be closely monitored, because the amount of medication may need to be decreased over time as you continue grounding.

      For blood pressure, this is as easy as monitoring your blood pressure at home at least once per day using a blood pressure cuff (which is good practice if you’re on blood pressure medication, regardless of whether or not you’re grounding). Then, if your blood pressure begins to correct, you’ll want to work with your doctor to determine how to adjust your medication dosage.

      Here are a couple of options for home blood pressure cuffs if you don’t already have one:
      https://omronhealthcare.com/products/platinum-wireless-upper-arm-blood-pressure-monitor-bp5450/
      https://omronhealthcare.com/products/gold-wireless-wrist-blood-pressure-monitor-bp4350/

      The healthy range for blood pressure is between 90/60 and 120/80. The first number in your blood pressure reading is your systolic blood pressure. If your systolic blood pressure gets to the lower 100s or into the 90s, it’s a good time to contact your doctor, because they’ll probably want to adjust your blood pressure medication accordingly.

      Continue to monitor your blood pressure, because you may need to decrease your medication dosage several times. Many of our customers who consistently ground have adjusted their medication downward and eventually have been able to eliminate their blood pressure medication completely with their doctor’s supervision.

  6. Sandra Mendel says:

    Must you lay directly on the mat for benefits or can you place a bed sheet on top of the mat? Please advise! Thanks!

    1. Mike Waldenberger says:

      I can not find it in writing so maybe I heard it on Podcast, but for sure read or heard someone say under one layer of sheet is fine.
      Seems to me it would matter what material the sheet is made of …not sure about satin or silk…cotton is somewhat conductive though has a pretty high resistance but that likely does not matter since they add a 1000 Ohms of resistance to the ground so it is safer and not a direct short.

    2. The Ground Therapy Sleep Mat can be placed under your fitted sheet or on top of your fitted sheet.

      The less material between your bare skin and the sleep mat, the quicker the electron transfer takes place, the greater the conductivity, and the more benefit you receive.

      That being said, it’s very important to be comfortable when you’re sleeping — because if you’re not comfortable, you won’t be able to sleep well — and quality sleep is essential for optimal health, as well as healing and repair. Therefore, if you need to use sheets and/or sleepwear to be comfortable when you sleep, certainly do so. Otherwise, trying to sleep when you’re uncomfortable would just counteract the slight benefit you would get from sleeping bare skin on the mat.

      Keep in mind that 90% or more of our customers use a fitted sheet and/or sleepwear and they still report excellent results.

  7. Dan Ordoins says:

    Can the grounding matt be placed under the top sheet and still be effective? It’s not comfortable sleeping on the matt itself.

    1. The Ground Therapy Sleep Mat can be placed under your fitted sheet or on top of your fitted sheet.

      The less material between your bare skin and the sleep mat, the quicker the electron transfer takes place, the greater the conductivity, and the more benefit you receive.

      However, it’s very important to be comfortable when you’re sleeping — because if you’re not comfortable, you won’t be able to sleep well — and quality sleep is essential for optimal health, as well as healing and repair. Therefore, if you need to use sheets and/or sleepwear to be comfortable when you sleep, certainly do so. Otherwise, trying to sleep when you’re uncomfortable would just counteract the slight benefit you would get from sleeping bare skin on the mat.

      Keep in mind that 90% or more of our customers use a fitted sheet and/or sleepwear and they still report excellent results.

  8. bvandizzle says:

    Is a discount code being offered?

    1. Mike says:

      looks like if you got to ultimatelongevity.com/ben
      A discount is included. Iwas total at $259 for twin full coverage sleep matt without the /Ben, then landed at $229 withe /BEN

    2. Ultimate Longevity says:

      When you go to Ben’s link, a popup box will show up describing that some of our products have special discounts up to 25% off. The 25% off discount applies to specific products, and is not a comprehensive discount that is applied to the entire order. 

      These discounted prices are already programmed into the website. No discount code is needed. You can see the original price, the savings you’ll receive, and the discounted price next to all of the special discounted items, and the discounted price will be applied automatically to any of these discounted items when they are added to your cart.

      If you buy one of our combo packs, a double sleep mat package, or a universal mat 2-pack, you will get a discount of up to 25%, so many of our most important product packages offer you a nice discount.

  9. John says:

    In the podcast you spoke about two people, one with bedroom EMF and one without EMF (adobe walls).

    Both showed improvements when grounded regardless of EMF’s. This makes me wonder if most/all damage from EMF’s can be solved by grounding?

    1. John says:

      Another question, when I plug a regular headphone jack into a powered speaker and touch the other end (both are male) the speaker starts emitting sound. If you then ground yourself while touching the jack sound coming from the speaker has a huge change. Is that difference in sound the Earth’s electrical resonance passing though my body? Is grounding similar to the way PEMF’s effect your body?

      1. Excellent questions! The answers are a bit too lengthy to post here. However, we’d be happy to have a detailed conversation with you. We have an excellent customer service team who can answer your questions over the phone. You can call us at 949-200-6404. Be sure to mention you heard about us from Ben Greenfield. We’re available from 10:00 AM to 7:00 PM Pacific Time, seven days a week. We look forward to hearing from you!

  10. Ryan says:

    My wife works the overnight shift. Would she still benefit the same even if she wouldn’t be “waking up with the earth?” She’d be sleeping from like 8am to 4 pm for example.

    1. Ultimate Longevity says:

      Absolutely! The sleep mat offers the most contact area to a grounded surface over a long, extended period of time, no matter when you use it.

  11. Greg says:

    I don’t see the zero gravity chair on ultimate longevity. Is it not available?

    1. Ultimate Longevity says:

      Unfortunately, the zero gravity chair is sold out. If you’d like us to contact you when it becomes available again, please contact us via email with your name, phone number, and email address. Please write, “Request for grounding chair” in the subject line of your email. You can find our email address at UltimateLongevity.com/ben The chair will be redesigned before it is re-released, so it may be a while before it is available again. 

      1. Greg says:

        I found the webpage for the chair. Will the redsigned one be similarly priced? Are there any videos of it?

        1. At this time, the pricing hasn’t been determined and there aren’t any videos, pictures, etc., of the new version available yet.

  12. Michael Kleban says:

    Will you still get the benefits of grounding at a park in a place like New York City where there is probably a subway beneath the ground anywhere you go?

    1. Yes, grounding in a park in New York City will still be effective, even if there are subway tunnels underneath the ground.

  13. Tyler says:

    Does wearing socks negate the benefits of wearing those earthing straps you can connect to your shoes?

    1. We at Ultimate Longevity do not sell the Erthe shoe straps. The company that does produce and sell them unfortunately doesn’t provide a way for the customer to test them for effectiveness, both when you first get the shoe straps or as you use them, to make sure they’re still working. Therefore, you wouldn’t be able to test how well they worked when wearing socks.

      The good news is, you can buy our Continuity Tester at https://www.ultimatelongevity.com/earthing-grounding/products/ground-therapy-accessories.shtml?ref=8, which could be used to test the Erthe shoe straps through socks to see whether the shoe straps worked through socks.

      BTW: If you purchase and start using the Erthe straps, it’s important to know that not all outdoor surfaces are grounded, and a grounding shoe will only ground you if you’re standing on a grounded surface. For example, before concrete is poured, there is often a plastic barrier that is put down to protect the concrete from water, weed growth, etc. 
      The grounding shoes will not ground you when you’re indoors either, unless you put your feet on one of our Ground Therapy Universal Mats that you can find at https://www.ultimatelongevity.com/earthing-grounding/products/ground-therapy-universal-mat.shtml?ref=8 This is because you can’t be grounded when you’re indoors unless there is a connection between you and the Earth via a cord that is connected to the ground port of a grounded electrical outlet or via a ground rod cord that connects directly to the Earth. Of course, you can use the Universal Mat with bare feet or with grounding shoe straps as long as you’ve verified the shoe straps are working. 
      We’ve often seen that if you test the Erthe shoe straps with your shoes outdoors (without socks), they will probably test for a proper ground connection (at least for a while), because there’s enough pressure to ground you with the shoe straps when you’re standing up. However, when you sit down, your feet rest on the shoe straps more lightly, so there often isn’t enough pressure to create a solid ground connection (even without socks). 
      Secondly, the shoe strap is a very small area of contact, which means it will provide far fewer beneficial electrons to you than placing your entire foot directly on the Universal Mat. 

      Lastly, keep in mind that the most important time to ground is when you sleep. This is for a few reasons. First, the more of your body that is touching a grounded surface, the more free electrons flow into you; in other words, more surface area contact means you get more electrons. Second, the longer you are grounded, the more benefit you’ll get, because you absorb more free electrons as more time passes. When you sleep grounded, your whole body is contacting the grounding mat for 6 to 8 hours at a time (or more). And, of course, your body does the most healing and repair while you sleep, making it an ideal time to be grounded. So sleeping grounded is the most important thing to do, but additional grounding is a valuable adjunct to grounded sleeping.

  14. Ivo S. says:

    I used to sleep on a grounding mat. Until I listened to one of your other podcasts on which a guy with an EMF meter went through your house. He mentioned that using a grounding mat in place with lots of EMF (in which I am when I travel to big cities) they can do more harm than good. Any truth to this?

    1. Kari says:

      I’m wondering the same thing. I thought Brian Hoyer said the body can become like an antenna for EMFs when on a mat so he doesn’t recommend them?

    2. Ultimate Longevity says:

      Regarding the topic of grounding, building biologists are often misinformed.

      There are two reasons that some individuals falsely claim that grounding is harmful in the presence of EMFs. I’ve addressed each below.

      The first false claim: Your body attracts EMFs to itself when grounded, thereby increasing your EMF exposure.

      EMFs pass through us all the time, regardless of whether or not we’re grounded. They emanate out from their source (i.e. smart meter, cellphone, etc) equally in all directions, similar to a ripple in a pond when a pebble is thrown into it. They cannot be attracted to a specific point or concentrated. Likewise, being grounded does not cause EMFs to be attracted to you. Any individual who claims that EMFs can be attracted to a specific point fundamentally misunderstands a basic principle of physics.

      The second false claim: You become an antenna when you’re grounded.

      Any electrical engineer or physicist knows that a grounded antenna doesn’t work. For an antenna to work, it cannot be grounded. Some of the confusion about antennas relates to the fact that masts and metal structures supporting large antennas are grounded, giving the impression that the antenna itself is grounded. That is not the case. The masts and supporting structures of antennas are grounded to protect against lightning, but the antenna itself is never grounded.

      Over the last 20 years, there have been over 20 significant clinical research studies that have been done on grounding. The results are nothing short of astonishing. All of the studies were conducted using indoor grounding devices.

      Here’s one example of a very pertinent study conducted on grounding that showed significant benefits from grounding even in the presence of an extremely high EMF environment.

      This study was done on premature babies in the ICU and was conducted by Penn State Health Hershey Medical Center. Some of the babies were in warmers, but a large portion of the babies were in incubators. Incubators produce an extremely high level of EMFs, and the highest level of EMFs is produced at top of the incubator right by the baby’s head.

      When the babies were measured prior to grounding, their vagal tone was very low – meaning they were in a state of extreme stress and their nervous system was stuck in sympathetic mode. The babies were then grounded to the ground port of a standard wall outlet. Once grounded, the babies’ vagal tone improved by 67% almost immediately. As long as the babies remained grounded, their improved vagal tone was maintained. Once they were no longer grounded, their improved vagal tone was no longer maintained and they returned to their high stress state.

      If you have any further questions, feel free to reach out to us and we’d be happy to have an in-depth conversation with you.

      You can find our contact information on our website. Our hours are 10am to 7pm Pacific Time, 7 days a week.

    3. Timothy says:

      My Aunt has lupus, I’m visiting her soon and am going to let her borrow my grounding sleep mat, I know you explained a lot of the science about grounding but is there anything special with lupus and grounding that I could talk to her about?

      Cheers, Timothy

      1. Ultimate Longevity says:

        This topic is so vast that we could write an entire book on grounding and lupus (as well as all other autoimmune illnesses). However, the short answer to your question is that grounding can be extremely valuable for lupus, as well as other autoimmune conditions. The more she grounds, the more benefit she’ll get.

        1. Timothy says:

          Thank you!

  15. KellyO says:

    Hi Ben – I’m considering the grounded sleep mat from Clint’s website after listening to your podcast. I also use the ChiliPad (Ooler). Do you know anything about using the two of them together – an ok idea? Or does it negate the effect of either of them? How should they be layered on the mattress (I’m assuming I would put the ChiliPad on top of the Grounded Sleep Mat)? thank you!

    1. KellyO says:

      whoops, just saw your reply to Lisa below. Der – should have looked before. thanks. ;-)

    2. Yes, you can! Just be sure to place the sleep mat on top of the Ooler; the Ooler will still cool you through the sleep mat, so that way, you can get the benefit of both.

  16. Jehoo says:

    Thanks for the podcast. I wanted to know if the grounding mats from earthing.com are similar to the ones on UltimateLongevity

    1. Joe D says:

      Different companies. Beware of knock off companies — there are a ton of them. I’d buy from the company that Ben recommends. I’m very happy with the products I purchased and the exceptional service I received from Ultimate Longevity.

    2. Zack says:

      I have the same question. The earthing.com website claims to sell the exact same products as Ultimate Longevity, mostly at the same prices but they also have at least one better deal. Ultimate Longevity, could you please clarify what is going on here? If this site is illegitimate, you should state that publicly. The earthing.com site appears to be legitimate and it also sells plenty of products on Amazon.

  17. Lisa says:

    Can you use the Ooler mat and the grounding mat on your bed at the same time?

    Lisa

    1. Ultimate Longevity says:

      Yes, you can! Just be sure to place the sleep mat on top of the Ooler; the Ooler will still cool you through the sleep mat, so that way, you can get the benefit of both.

      1. I actually have my grounding mat UNDER my ooler…seems to work fine that way too clint. what do u think?

        1. Better to put the grounding mat on top of the Ooler and let the Ooler cool the grounding mat, which will then cool you.

          1. Dan Ordoins says:

            Can the grounding mat be under the sheet?

          2. The Ground Therapy Sleep Mat can be placed under your fitted sheet or on top of your fitted sheet.

            The less material between your bare skin and the sleep mat, the quicker the electron transfer takes place, the greater the conductivity, and the more benefit you receive.

            However, it’s very important to be comfortable when you’re sleeping — because if you’re not comfortable, you won’t be able to sleep well — and quality sleep is essential for optimal health, as well as healing and repair. Therefore, if you need to use sheets and/or sleepwear to be comfortable when you sleep, certainly do so. Otherwise, trying to sleep when you’re uncomfortable would just counteract the slight benefit you would get from sleeping bare skin on the mat.

            Keep in mind that 90% or more of our customers use a fitted sheet and/or sleepwear and they still report excellent results.

  18. Joseph says:

    Where can one purchase the grounding patches?

    1. Ultimate Longevity says:

      You can find the patch kit and patches at UltimateLongevity.com/ben

      1. Maria says:

        I am not getting the 20% discount when purchasing via UltimateLongevity.com/ben. Has this offer expired?

        1. Brian says:

          Same here. I want to make a purchase but not getting the discount.

        2. When you go to Ben’s link, a popup box will show up describing that some of our products have special discounts up to 25% off. The 25% off discount applies to specific products, and is not a comprehensive discount that is applied to the entire order. 

          These discounted prices are already programmed into the website. No discount code is needed. You can see the original price, the savings you’ll receive, and the discounted price next to all of the special discounted items, and the discounted price will be applied automatically to any of these discounted items when they are added to your cart.

          If you buy one of our combo packs, a double sleep mat package, or a universal mat 2-pack, you will get a discount of up to 25%, so many of our most important product packages offer you a nice discount.

          1. Brian says:

            Whether you access via Ben’s link or not, the prices are the same. He gets the kickback if we place an order linking to him, but there is no additional savings for us (there was a point in time where accessing the site via Ben’s link opened up a discounted price).

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