Shining Laser Lights On Your Balls & Beyond: Photobiomodulation 101 – How To Use Near Infrared & Red Light For Collagen, Thyroid, Muscle, Skin & More.

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For some reason, I've gotten a reputation as a guy who “shines light on his balls”.

Perhaps it was this Men's Health magazine article, in which I discuss a form of light therapy called “photobiomodulation” as a way for guys to increase sexual performance, sperm count and testosterone.

Or perhaps it's because I've described on multiple podcasts how I pull down my pants for 20-30 minutes a day while I'm at my desk, and “bathe my balls” in red and near-infrared light, using a device called a “Joovv”.

Turns out the benefits of photobiomodulation go far beyond your nether regions. Heck, this recent study even hinted at the fact that perhaps it should actually be banned as an illegal performance-enhancing drug!

On today's podcast, I discuss photobiomodulation ins and outs with two experts in the field: Justin Strahan and Scott Nelson.

Not just any man can take his wife's dream and make it a reality. This is just one of the reasons why Justin is so special. Justin's affinity for process and extreme attention to detail is why we are lucky to have him as head of R&D. The two words we would to describe Justin are intuitive and thorough. Prior to inventing and developing the Joovv, he spent his career as an engineer managing design and development teams. He also has six children, and can apparently play drums and trumpet like it's nobody's business.

 

 

Scott is the impetus, power, and energy that set Joovv in motion. As head of commercialization, his ability to metabolize information quickly makes him an irreplaceable asset. The two words we would use to describe Scott are efficient and personable. Prior to cofounding Joovv, he spent his entire professional career in leadership positions with some of the largest medical device companies in the world, including Medtronic, Covidien, Boston Scientific, and C.R. Bard.

 

During our discussion, you'll discover:

-The intriguing history of photobiomodulation (PBM) and the JOOVV light…11:11

  • All types of health benefits from a wide range of wavelengths.
    • Sunlight is optimal
    • Red (600-670 nanometers); near infrared (800-880 nanometers)
    • Visible Red light is considered near infrared.
    • Far infrared is useful for heating tissue (over 3000 nanometers); you can't see it.
  • Comparing research between red and near-infrared light.
    •  Original PBM devices were lasers. Low-level laser therapy (LLLT)
    • Difference between LED and lasers: light source itself. Laser is a specific wavelength. LED is tight range, but not a coherent beam.
    • Photo medicine is still a niche field. Most older academics say that it's based on laser therapy, younger professionals say with newer LED light, you can deliver the same level of intensity over a much broader treatment area.
  • How is LED light different from sunlight?
    • Americans spend around 93% of their lifetime indoors due to their work and lifestyle.
    • PBM harnesses specific wavelengths; restores healthy function to offset stressors such as wifi, bluetooth, etc.
    • It's similar to supplementing our diets with a smoothie or multivitamin.
    • It doesn't contain the UVA or UVB, blue light, etc.

-The compelling research behind phototherapy for everything from testosterone to collagen to thyroid to muscular recovery and beyond…21:00

  •  Wide-ranging benefits: skin health, muscle recovery, thyroid function.
    • Supported by over 3,000 peer-reviewed manuscripts.
    • Over 200 placebo-controlled trials.
  • Restores natural skin health.
  • Red light is studied for skin health; near infrared often used for joint pain studies.
  • Are JOOVV lights effective for controlling acne?
  • The effect of red lights on the eyes. Will it damage your eyes to stare at a JOOVV, or will it even help them?
    • Proven to help degenerative eyes.
    • Near-infrared a bit more comfortable to the eye.
    • Begin treatment with eyes closed; then open eyes if you feel comfortable.
    • JOOVV elite allows you to use only near-infrared light.
    • JOOVV devices are registered with the FDA, Class 2.
  • How red and infrared light affects collagen production.
    • It increases collagen production, helps restore joint health.
    • Copper and green light have been shown to enhance benefits of light therapy.
  • Can PBM mitigate circadian rhythm or exposure to artificial light?
    • Sun gets a “bad rap”; unfairly associated with skin cancer.
    • Studies prove that red/infrared light increase levels of melatonin.

-Is PBM effective in attaining weight loss?…41:30

  • Not necessarily weight loss, but there is a “slimming effect”.
  • Some studies have shown that red light helps in increasing metabolism.
  • Red light has been shown to mitigate the effects of sleep deprivation. 

-Why PBM is now under consideration for classification as a “performance enhancing drug”…46:30

  • Meta-analysis claimed that red light builds up muscle tissue.
  • Near-infrared waves have had a profound impact.

-How PBM affects stem cells…49:30

-The effect of using PBM on your neck for thyroid issues…51:30

-The optimal amount of PBM to which you should expose yourself per day…54:23

  • It's difficult to test the power output of a device.
  • There are many variables that affect the amount of PBM a device is able to put out.
  • Ensure you purchase your device from a reliable, trusted company.
  • JOOVV is ~100 milowatts per sq. cm.
  • Recommended 10-minute treatment about 6″ away from the device.

-The differences and benefits of continuous wave vs pulsed frequencies…1:01:20

  • Pulsed means the light turns on and off very rapidly.
  • A bit of ambiguity on the results of pulsed; continuous wave is tried and true.
  • Sunlight is considered to be a continuous wave light.

-Whether the JOOVV produces much EMF or flicker, and if you can actually look at the light without eye damage…1:03:07

  • Household LED lighting is different from PBM. JOOVV lights have AC/DC built in.
  • JOOVV lights mitigate “dirty electricity.” 
  • Newer devices are even more effective.

-What kind of things you can combine with photobiomodulation to enhance the effects…1:10:30

-And much more!

Click here for the full written transcript of this podcast episode.

Resources from this episode:

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Alitura Clay Mask

PulseCenters PEMF

Swannies clear lens blue light blocking glasses

The structured water filter Ben uses

4th Phase Of Water Book by Gerald Pollack

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13 thoughts on “Shining Laser Lights On Your Balls & Beyond: Photobiomodulation 101 – How To Use Near Infrared & Red Light For Collagen, Thyroid, Muscle, Skin & More.

  1. Carson says:

    Pulsed vs continuous is a huge difference between treatments. Especially if your trying to heal something. There’s nothing mentioned here about it.

  2. Ryan says:

    thanks for the podcast!

    A few times people are mentioned who boosted their testosterone and verified it via testing.

    Could you please share what protocol they followed?

    I’m aware of the rat study that boosted testosterone via pbm, but I’d find it much more valuable to hear a known working protocol on a person with this actual light.

    thanks!

  3. Rick Yarussi says:

    Just FYI, the reason a laser is collimated (light comes out in a parallel beam with small divergence) isn’t related to the fact that it’s just one color. It’s just because of how they’re usually built. If you wanted to, it would be easy to take a laser and expand the beam with a simple lens or diffuser. But since we don’t know *exactly* which wavelengths are needed, it’s probably good that LED’s have a wider spectrum.

  4. Rick Yarussi says:

    Halogen lamps run on DC, but you don’t get much flicker because of how they work. They work because the current raises the temperature of the filament, and it glows. The AC is varying at 60Hz, so the time between voltage peaks is about 16.6ms. So the time from the peak to when it goes to 0 is only 8.3ms. That’s not enough time for the filament to cool significantly. So there might be a small amount of flicker – it would be very interesting to measure exactly how much – but I doubt it’s a lot. LED’s are different – they don’t work by heat, so they respond much faster to changes in the current.

  5. Keith says:

    Ben i have a question? If i was to buy one Joovv and set up a area with mirrors to reflect the light from the Joovv to cover my whole body would that have the same effect?

    Thanks for all you do,
    Keith

  6. SlyNate says:

    I believe you mentioned using PEMF on your femur to enhance endogenous stem cell production. Can you please provide a reference to evidence or a protocol for that? Also, is it possible to overdo PEMF? Like is there a downside for oversaturing your cells with PEMF?

    Lastly, can you also please provide more information on the green tea face soak? Are we supposed to just brew green tea, dip a rag in it, and rest on our face?

  7. Mitch says:

    The link you provided for green tea extract for skin has some really toxic chemicals in it. Many people use links on this blog and trust the recommendations. Can you link to a better one? do you use this product? do you have any reservations with this product?

    1. Mitch says:

      Disregard and apologies. Realized you mentioned in the podcast that it has bad ingredients. Jumped the gun.

  8. Spartan says:

    Can you use the joov light inside a clearlight sauna? Get both the near and far infrared in a single modality.

  9. Tim Vargo says:

    Roxanne
    You don’t have to put on the red light
    Those days are over
    You don’t have to sell your body to the night
    Roxanne
    You don’t have to wear that dress tonight
    Walk the streets for money
    You don’t care if it’s wrong or if it’s right
    Roxanne
    You don’t have to put on the red light
    Roxanne
    You don’t have to put on the red light
    put on the red light
    (Roxanne) put on the red light
    (Roxanne) put on the red light
    (Roxanne) put on the red light
    (Roxanne) put on the red light
    Oh!
    I loved you since I knew ya
    I wouldn’t talk down to ya
    I have to tell you just how I feel
    I won’t share you with another boy
    I know my mind is made up
    So put away your make-up
    Told you once, I won’t tell you again it’s a bad way
    Roxanne
    You don’t have to put on the red light
    Roxanne
    You don’t…
    ~The Police

  10. Joel says:

    What was the device you mentioned which measures EMF levels?

  11. mike says:

    I thought this was going to be an article on photoshop! Ha ha!

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