The Real Truth About Genetic Testing, Why 23AndMe Is Not Enough (& The Most Advanced Genetic Test You Should Get Instead For Customizing Your Exercise, Your Diet, Your Supplements & More!).

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Three months ago, my twin ten-year-old boys and I sent our saliva off to a lab in Canada for one of the most advanced genetic tests available.

And I was blown away by what I learned.

On today's podcast, I reveal the test that we took, exactly what we learned and how you can take the same test as we did.

My guest is Dr. Karim Dhanani, who is the founder and Chief Medical Director at Toronto’s Centre for Biological Medicine, a clinic that is redefining North American naturopathic medicine for the 21st century. Dr. Dhanani’s clinic – a specially designed, ecologically sound facility set in pristine Canadian woodland – has become a global mecca for those seeking to live their lives at 100%.

For Dr. Dhanani, the appeal of medicine was always the investigative aspect. He loves breaking down a tough problem, and systematically uncovering the root causes with diligence, discipline, and precision. After completing his education in biology, chemistry, and naturopathic medicine, he found his calling in German biological medicine, a branch of naturopathy that integrates cutting-edge science and precision with the millennia-old wisdom of natural healing techniques.

But just learning in a laboratory setting wasn’t enough. Dr. Dhanani set off on a journey that took him from Canada to Europe to Africa and beyond, to understand what lies at the most advanced frontiers of Biological Medicine. Since establishing the Centre for Biological Medicine in 2002, he has transformed the lives of thousands of individuals, including athletes, scientists, and other doctors at the highest levels of their professions. His internationally renowned reputation – particularly in the naturopathic treatment of chronic degenerative disease – has led to research collaborations with Nobel Prize winners, and turned Dr. Dhanani into one of naturopathic medicine’s most sought-after speakers.

During our discussion, you'll discover:

-The fascinating history and world of biological medicine, and a German pioneer of medicine that Dr. Dhanani learned from…9:15
  • The goal is to identify the “root cause” of a symptom or problem.
  • It's a combination of diagnostic tools and innovative thought processes. “We look to see what ‘outside the box' is influencing what is ‘inside the box.'”
  • What is the relationship between biological medicine and bioregulatory medicine?
    • The only substantive difference is that of vernacular.
    • Both are looking at the body's capacity to heal; responses to symptoms, or “punches” to your body.
  • Cell communication: we believe cells speak via biochemistry.
  • Dr. Fritz Albert Popp: pioneer of biophotonic signaling of cells.
  • The Baden Baden Biological Medicine conference in Germany.
  • Energy medicine has a larger role to play than physical medicine.
-The most interesting biohacks coming out of Europe, including the Mora machine for detoxification and new types of laser treatments for red blood cells…21:55
  • Just like we use words to communicate, certain bodies require light and sound to communicate.
  • The Mora machine uses electronics and sound to drive specific frequencies into the system.
  • We can increase the amount of glutathione in your body by simply giving the frequency of glutathione without injecting it.
  • You're providing a mechanism to carry the molecule into the body energetically.
  • Weber Intravenous Laser Therapy
    • Different color lights (not LED) affects communication between cells.
    • Depth of penetration of LED lights isn't as efficacious as lasers.
-Where 23andme genetic testing falls short, and what Dr. Dhanani has discovered when it comes to the truth about genetic testing and genomics…29:18
  • You're only as good as the technology available.
  •  Tests must be 1) Accurate, 2) Reproducible and 3) Functionally relevant.
  • 23andme uses “SNPS” which are not functionally relevant; they're good for data collection and perhaps ancestry.
  • For illustration: You don't assume the forest is unwell because one tree in it is unwell.
  • Look at associations of SNPS.
  • MTHFR is one of many we can examine.
  • Anywhere between 15-40% error rate with consumer tests like 23andme.
  • CNV (copy number variance)
    • D2C tests don't tell you whether you have one or two copies of a particular gene.
    • You get a distorted view of your level of detox.
  • The type of genetic testing is applicable for testing for illegal substances.
  • 23andme also doesn't test for insertion/deletion genes.
-Why Ben can't absorb Vitamin D from sunlight, and why he must supplement with Vitamin D instead…52:00
  • Vitamin D is actually a pro-hormone, more than an actual vitamin.
  • 1-25 hydroxy vitamin D is the actual component.
  • Some people are not genetically predisposed to absorb the 1-25 hydroxy from sunlight; it's necessary to transport it via supplements.
  • Thorne Vitamin D and Vitamin K.
-Why Ben and his twin boys now take glutathione every day (and why you must be very careful if you use any form of injectable glutathione)…57:30
  • Modern technology causes pollutants and stressors on the body that didn't exist 100 years ago.
  • We're referring to utilization and recycling of glutathione, rather than the production.
  • Many diseases can be traced to low levels of glutathione and the inability to detoxify the body.
-How to increase your body's own glutathione with nutrients such as N-Acetyl Cysteine, Alpha, Lipoic Acid, Selenium and Milk Thistle…1:03:35
  • The best scenario is your body generating glutathione on its own; when the gene is deleted, then you seek injections.
  • Dr. Dhanani's lab will create a customized formula, rather than trying to ingest them individually.
  • What is preferable: a liquid or powdered injection.
    • Parkinson's patients have been known to have their symptoms stabilized within seconds of a glutathione IV.
    • You get optimal results beginning with a powder, then mixing it with saline before injecting.
  • The objective of the injection is to train your body to generate glutathione on its own.
-Why Ben has high natural amounts of vascular inflammation and what that has to do with high-intensity exercise and HIIT training…1:05:40
  • 9P21 gene is a pre-ordained inflammatory level that is higher than normal.
    • Occurs independent of diet, activity, etc.
  • High-intensity exercise creates massive amounts of blood flow, then it stops; this exacerbates the issue.
  • Folks who are uber healthy, then die suddenly have the 9P21 gene; they've actually been tested for it.
  • People who die from chemotherapy, have the 9P21.
  • My podcast episode with Thomas Ingoglia in which we discuss GDF11 mRNA
-How to know if your pancreas is producing the proper amount of insulin in response to the diet you are eating…1:17:30
  • tcf7l2 gene
  • If I was not tracking my levels and activity, I'd be at serious risk of a heart attack given my genetics.
-The DMPS/EDTA Chelation Challenge for heavy metals and how it works…1:22:15
  • You want to look for a spike in your aluminum; it tends to be stored in the brain.
  • If you see that spike, you're at the deepest storage level.
  • DMSA doesn't pull lead or cadmium out of your system.
-The best way to measure your endothelial health and vascular function (using a protocol called “Endo-PAT”)…1:25:30
  • PAT = Peripheral Arterial Tone.
  • They measure endothelial lining, the level of inflammation.
  • They can change over time, or with changes in your diet.
  • Always be comparing apples to apples.
-The extreme importance for Brain Derived Neurotrophic Factor (BDNF) of sauna, intermittent fasting, Lion's Mane mushroom extract, and low intensity (not HIIT) cardio…1:28:45
  • We associate this with TBI.
  • Reprogram neural inputs to offset the damaged pattern.
  • Those with 9P21 gene are more susceptible to endothelial inflammation.
  • Limit extreme activity.
  • The 9P21 gene limits the amount of dopamine you're naturally able to produce.
-Why having a “low serotonin reabsorption” issue can cause you to ruminate and dwell upon items…1:33:15
  • Serotonin is the “seat” of executive function: how does your body eliminate peripheral nagging in your system?
  • Peripheral/secondary things become your focus.
  • Mental echo: “did I actually close the garage door???”
-How Ben takes notes at night without keeping himself awake for too long…1:36:45
  • Evernote or similar tools that sync among devices.
  • People with low BDNF and serotonin can actually connect things like conversations and tasks better – because you're ruminating on them.
  • I keep a pilot pen light and piece of paper so I can take notes as they come into my mind.
  • Low BDNF also affects circadian rhythm; difficulty falling and maintaining sleep.
  • Lion's Mane mushroom extract helps supplement BDNF.
-The single most important reason Ben needs to limit his intake of saturated fats…1:44:00
  • 7-10% of fat should be saturated.
  • You can have avocados, but not coconut or MCT oils.
  • 9P21 gene increases inflammation; which goes to your vasculature and affects your focus and concentration.
  • Going beyond supplements: lifestyle activities such as meditation, intermittent fasting are efficacious in increasing serotonin.

-Why Dr. Dhanani says: “Epigenetics can disqualify genetics – and I’ve done just that”…1:49:40

-And much more!

Resources from this episode:

Click here to get $50 off a consult with Dr. Dhanani, along with $400 (instead of $920) for the test and $199/month (instead of $229/month) for the customized supplements.

My DNA testing results

My son River's DNA testing results

My son Terran's DNA testing results

The Carillon resort in Miami

-Book: Bioregulatory Medicine: An Innovative Holistic Approach to Self Healing 

Dr. Fritz Albert Popp

-Book: Integrative Biophysics: Biophotonics

The Baden Baden medical week conference in Germany

The Biological Medicine/Swiss Healing Retreat Ben is leading in Europe in July

The Mora machine Dr. Dhanani describes

Weber intravenous laser treatments

My podcast episode with Thomas Ingoglia in which we discuss GDF11 mRNA

The Thorne Vitamin D/Vitamin K blend

The Almsbio glutathione Ben and his boys use

The True Cellular Detox heavy metal detox Ben does every year

The Direct Labs test for heavy metals

-Book: Less Doing, More Living: Make Everything in Life Easier

Four Sigmatic Lion's Mane Mushroom Extract

The Pilot Pen Night Writing pen that Ben uses

-Karim's Centre for Biological Medicine is offering podcast listeners an opportunity to take charge of their health by offering Youtrients testing and supplements at over 50% discount. Regular testing price is $920.00, but you get now you can take the same testing for $400.00

Along with this, the Centre for Biological Medicine will support your ongoing health by offering consultations to detail the results of the genomic tests to tailor your food intake, lifestyle and supplements to optimum health and wellness. With the genomic test, there is a $50 discount for this consultation, should you choose to proceed.

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84 thoughts on “The Real Truth About Genetic Testing, Why 23AndMe Is Not Enough (& The Most Advanced Genetic Test You Should Get Instead For Customizing Your Exercise, Your Diet, Your Supplements & More!).

  1. Chris Farnden says:

    Dr. Dhanani, I have 4 year old twins, one boy and one girl. The boy was diagnosed to be on the ASD spectrum and is high functioning. He is really happy and curious. His major challenge is speech and communication. Do you have any experience in completing testing on people on the spectrum? If so, in your opinion would this genetic testing and supplementation be beneficial in helping my son overcome challenges in speech, short attention span etc. Any insight is much appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Chris.

  2. drew fairman says:

    Did Dr. Dhanani mention that someone with Parkinson’s could get a shot of Glutathione and it would stop their tremors??

  3. Dr. Karim Dhanani,
    I applied on your clinic website for all of your three programs. I did this the day after your podcast. Then since I didn’t hear from you within the 48 Hours listed on your website I again contacted your website 2 days ago. I have yet to hear back from you and since there’s no email thread for me to know that you received my request it leaves me discombobulated.

  4. Larry says:

    I’ve been considering doing the PerkinElmer Genetics testing for myself family – very expensive. Members of my family struggle with apparent Lyme, mast cell issues & a host of other challenges. After listening to this exceptional podcast, I’m wondering if that test would be ‘incomplete’ and/or not as ‘deep & layered’ as I hope for. Would the testing talked about in this podcast similar or completely different? After spending multiplied thousands of dollars chasing root causes & solutions, I want to be careful about how I spend my money.

  5. Linda says:

    Excellent Podcast. I am so excited about the future of healthcare and genetic testing. I have done DNAfit and Habit but both have left me wanting just a bit more detail and direction. Does Dr. Dahani’s consultations take in account lifestyle and age? Thank you!

    1. Dr. Dhanani says:

      Hello Linda
      Thank you for the question. The genetic test does not take into account lifestyle nor age. However when we have our consultation I do take these items along with relevant history in order to provide you with direction as to what will work best for you and your genes. The previous tests that you have preformed is strictly about diet and exercise. This is much more comprehensive in your hormones, mental health, cardiovascular, detox and metabolism…

      In health
      Dr. D

  6. Susan Grant says:

    Hi Ben,

    I live in Switzerland. In this podcast you asked Dr. Dhanani if he knew the Paracelsus clinic in Switzerland. He said yes, and referred to Dr. Rau’s Paracelsus clinic which is in the German speaking Appenzel region of Switzerland. Dr. Rau is a very respected practitioner of biological medicine here and author of the book “Biological Medicine, The Future of Natural Healing”. His clinic also has a biological dentistry department which I have been to. However there are at least 2 Paracelsus clinics in Switzerland. Dr. Rau’s clinic and the Paracelsus Al Ronc which is the one I think you are going next summer. It is in the Italian speaking part of the country. I am not sure there is any association between these two clinics. Just so you know…..

    Love your podcasts and your work….

  7. Jodi says:

    I have a 40 year old relative with primary progressive MS. No treatments have been able to ward off the symptoms or the continued degeneration of nerves. What is your experience with conditions like primary progressive MS? Have you had any success in providing treatment for MS patients?

    1. Dr. Dhanani says:

      Hello Jody

      Its very kind of you to inquire about a family member. We need more kindness in the world…
      My first inclination (without providing a diagnosis) is to test for Lyme disease. I have a very large and active Lyme and confection patient base and many many of them with MS diagnosis are actually Lyme and confection cases.
      ARMIN Labs in Germany is my favourite testing lab. Choose the ‘tickplex’ panel.
      I hope this helps.

      In health

      Dr. D

  8. Mark says:

    Dr. D,

    Is your genetic testing a full scoping of the genome identical to Human Longevity? Can the data be uploaded to StrateGene or Promethease? Does the genetic report site specific studies as justification for the interpretations? Can I lock in this pricing for completion after January 1st when my FSA funds become available to disburse?

    Very informative and thought provoking conversation. Have you thought of doing your own podcast siting patient examples? I predict it would be wildly popular.

    Regards,
    Mark

  9. Inalienablewrights says:

    Do your due diligence on genetic testing. It is highly likely that intelligence agencies get copies of most genetic testing. This is not a theory. Government has already been busted in several states, surreptitiously amassing huge databases on infants from the new born heel pricks, that they lie to you about the purpose of.

    1. Dr. Dhanani says:

      I totally agree. I wouldnt consider myself a conspiracist because what I believe is factual and real. Just not many people know about it. Fukushima is still leaking radiation (and we are still eating fish from that region), the word ‘devil’ in the dictionary should be replaced by ‘Monsanto’ and genetic testing using DTC testing especially with the platform of Google Genetics (which was originally created to gather information on genes) is on the public registrar. But it is not just for data collection… its for control. I have never completed my own DTC test because I prefer to keep my genes for myself, thank you very much. This test is in a University setting and your name never reaches the lab. It is just a number that gets to the lab. We connect the three pieces together (name and number and genes) at the company level. And although ALL firewalls can be broken by government (which is why the programming of code of firewalls need to be written a certain way) we try every way to keep your anonymity.

      1. Derek Z says:

        You truly are an amazing man, thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  10. Peter Pace says:

    Dr. D & Ben,

    Great podcast! This question is for both of your perspective expertises. While I agree that having a supplement formulation that is specific to an individual is how it should be, couldn’t this be counter intuitive like many multivitamin formulations (depending on isolated nutrients needed) being that many vitamins and minerals compete for the same transporters into the enterocyte for absorption? Also, is this competition for absorption considered in the suggested dosing (i.e. amount and # of times a day)?

    Thanks in advance!

    In Health,

    Peter

    1. Dr. Dhanani says:

      Thanks for the question Peter

      I agree, most multivitamins, contain far too many ingredients that are not only poorly absorbed, but often contain stimulants not to mention are in the wrong form. The formula is usually dosed two times per day so as to not overwhelm the transporters (especially for vitamin D). The formula is then perfected by looking at the individuals age and weight as a 5 year old boy (at a weight of 40 lbs) needs less selenium than his 35 year old father weighing 165 lbs.
      Hope this helps

      In health
      Dr. D

  11. Alina says:

    Great episode, guys.. I think the MCT + ghee (bulletproof) coffee doesn’t work for me either – maybe because of this APOA2 you mention. It feels like i am gaining weight on a high fat diet, low carb diet. So avocados and other unsaturated fats (nuts, fish, olives, olive oil) would be ok and in what max % ?

    1. Dr. Dhanani says:

      Hey Alina

      Typically no more than 7-10% of total calories should come from saturated fat if you are suboptimal APOA2 genotype.

      In health
      Dr. D

  12. Todd says:

    You mentioned that you get recommendations regarding what type of food you should be eating like Ben should do a Mediterranean/Paleo…how does this differ from Eating for your blood type? Is their any correlation to blood type and what your dna is saying you should eat? Very interesting podcast

    1. Dr. Dhanani says:

      Hey Todd

      The genomic test is very different than eating for your blood type. Interestingly, Peter D’Adamo has delved into genetics with his fantastic program called Opus 23.

      In health
      Dr. D

  13. Robert Webb says:

    We filled out the form for services and haven’t received any feedback?

    1. Dr. Dhanani says:

      Hello Robert
      My apologies… we are a bit behind in the processing of the requests… we will be sending off the majority of the kits by Friday of this week and hopefully it will be received on your end by mid next week. Once your sample has been received, it will take approximately 7 weeks to get the results and the results will be forwarded to you immediately. If you have a consultation to interpret your results then one would have been booked with you once we received the sample. Thank you for your patience Robert.

      In health
      Dr. D

  14. Dave Fellows says:

    Ben, you might find it interesting to cross-reference your genetic report with the data found in www.selfdecode.com. You can upload your 23andme data to the site and it lists all the Genes and SNPs along with descriptive information, substances that increase or decrease that gene, potential fixes, associated diseases etc along with links to referenced studies. As Dr Karim pointed out, the 23andMe data isn’t necessarily the most accurate but that doesn’t effect the reference data in the SelfDecode database. I haven’t had the Youtrients test done yet but I’m going through your report and looking at my data in SelfDecode and it’s pretty interesting… I have a lot of yellow and red – like you! :( Will be interesting to see if the Youtrients results correlate once I get that test done.
    Thanks for the great episode and sharing your data!
    Dave

  15. Amy Frye says:

    Dr. Dhanani,

    I submitted a request for the whole package 2 days ago. It stated that someone would call me within 24 hrs. I have yet to hear from anyone. Is there something wrong with Ben’s site?

    Thank you,

    1. Dr. Dhanani says:

      Hello Amy
      Your completely right.. The podcast was launched on our Canadian Thanksgiving weekend and when we go into the office on Tuesday we were inundated with hundreds of requests. We are soo thrilled and blessed but a bit behind in our responses. Please accept my apologies and someone from the front desk will respond to you and mail out the saliva kit by Friday and you should have it by mid next week. Once we receive the sample back it will take approximately 7 weeks to get the results. If you have a consultation request then a consultation will ensue hopefully within 2 weeks of receiving the results (as the consultation will be pre-booked once the samples have been received on our end).

      In health
      Dr. D

  16. William Knox says:

    Am i being trolled or is there no code for this discount? i keep going to the link to order the DNA test and its asking me for a code. There being a code is mentioned in the podcast and on this page multiple times but i cant find the actual code?

    1. William Knox says:

      Nvm I’m not smart. Maybe reading comprehension is genetic and ill find out about that in my test results

    2. It's listed on the Biological Medicine website, CBMBGF.

  17. Chris Patterson says:

    Friends; just a thought, if a human lacks a certain gene or has a particular gene, how much impact will that make – look at epigenetics, true. I heard recently that for all the genes a human carries about one percent of them are human so could it be if a bacteria (or a worm) has the missing gene then perhaps symbiotically we are all well? BTW this is the first comment I have ever left and a huge thank you to Ben, his family and the bigger team. Bit like the bigger picture I guess we work with the planet all will be well.

  18. Kelly says:

    I’m intrigued by your APOE status (3/3) since I’ve heard you mention in other podcasts that you carry the APOE4. Is there an explanation as to why this result is different? Makes me question my own results; I’ve done 23andme as well as having my genome sequenced through a different company (Sequencing.com). I’m slightly confused about their methods and/or interpretations.

  19. Mishan says:

    I LOVED this episode and the depth and science of it. Curious, Ben: you mention you use the Freestyle Libre glucose monitor – is there an over-the-counter alternative to that (even if it means pricking fingers) that you’ve used and trust? Thank you!

  20. Scott C says:

    Hi Dr. Dhanani, Thank you for all of this valuable information. I think I speak for several of Ben’s listeners when I say that it would be nice if these discounts were available in Canadian currency to avoid the 2.5 – 3.5 % fee for Canadians. Perhaps it would be benefiical to your company as well? Anyhow, I hope this is considered, great work and thanks again!

    1. Dr. Dhanani says:

      Thank you for the kind words Scott
      I agree, us Canadians are getting killed in the exchange rate. He are the Canadian prices:
      $550 for the Genetic test
      $300 for the consultation
      $249 for the supplements
      It actually works out to be a bit more expensive in Canadian currency because most of the ingredients are sourced from International or USA locations and the preferred currency of the world is USD…
      If you’d like to pay in Canadian dollars, just let us know when we connect with you and we can make that happen.

      In health
      Dr. D

      1. Scott C says:

        Thanks, if the ingredients is the reason for the higher price in CDN dollars than I can understand why the supplement cost would be more in Canadian dollars but I don’t understand the higher price for the Genetic test and Consultation. Nonetheless, I’ll likely just go ahead and purchase in USD.

  21. Emily says:

    My doctor offers the Weber IV laser in conjunction with high pass ozone therapy. The laser is put into the bottle and all the blood is exposed to it, as well as the ozone, and then infused back into the body under pressure. My experience is that it is a very strong treatment. In fact, it often causes an ocular migraine (so we have backed off on using it for ozone alone) which makes me scratch my head about vascular instability.

    Vascular instability also seems to explain most of why mold avoidance protocols work in the short term, but it seems far more beneficial to try to heal the vasculature directly rather than living in the desert in a metal box indefinitely.

    Finally, I wonder if this testing is able to characterize the RCCX module properly with all its CNVs and pseudogenes?

    1. Dr. Dhanani says:

      In my experience Ive found the SOD gene and GSTT1 gene to be associated with sensitivity to mould. If you have vascular inflammation, the byproducts of mould can be deposited on the inner lining of blood vessels causing you to have symptoms. There is a discussion happening now with the leading environmental expert in EMF to look at genomics to see why people are more sensitive than others, but the results are a long ways away from being publicly available.
      Curious, the WEBER laser IV is a direct infusion, but in your post you mention that the laser is put into a bottle? Maybe you are thinking of UV laser perhaps? ULVX system?

      In health
      Dr. D

  22. Nas says:

    Hello,

    Once we purchase the genetic test do we have the option to receive the RAW data along with the Youtrients report? I’ve been holding off using 23 and me for the reasons initially mentioned in the podcast.Thank you for your time.

    1. Dr. Dhanani says:

      Hello Nas
      One of the concerns is the vast number of SNP’s can mimic each other, so there is no actual RAW data. We are only testing relevant functional genes that are related to health.

      In health
      Dr. D

  23. Keith says:

    Dr. Dhanani or Ben,

    Is it possible to use my FSA(flex spending account) from my insurance to pay for the Test/Consultation/ and or Supplements.

    Thanks,

    Keith

    1. You'd probably have to talk to your health insurance company about that.

  24. Dev says:

    In the podcast you mention the error rates of D2C testing like 23andMe, I’m curious what the error rate is for Dr. Dhanani’s version of genetic testing? I’m also curious if there are other companies or clinics that are offering more thorough DNA testing, or if the Centre for Biological Medicine is the first and only?
    Thanks!

  25. Matthew Hannan says:

    Ben, i know you have spoke of giving your children Glutathione. I currently take the Alms Bio along with many other products that you have suggested that make sense for me. I have a nine year old daughter and obviously want her to be as healthy(hopefully more) as i am. But i am always timid of giving her supplements due to not wanting to hurt or adversely affect her health in this critical stage of her life. Can you link or create if not present some info on what more we can do for our kids. I think taking part in the same practices wether that be workouts or supplements is best to be done as a family. Thanks Ben and keep up the great work.

    1. David Putterman says:

      I am curious about this too.

  26. Rita Maguire says:

    Incredibly fascinating podcast with Dr Dhanani and I will definitely be ordering the test providing I can engage in the process from the UK . In the meantime I’ve been having glutathione IV monthly but I’m now wondering is this a waste of money and can Ben or Dr Dhanani recommend a gluctathione that can be taken orally they believe works

    1. Dr. Dhanani says:

      Hello Rita
      Not to try to oversell the genetic test, but why not test to see if you can recycle glutathione? If you are missing the GSTT1, GSTM1 genes, then you need occasional glutathione IV. Just a thought.

      In health
      Dr. D

      1. Rita Maguire says:

        Hi Dr Dhanani
        Thank you for your reply, sensible!! i have emailed your site twice now as i’m really keen to get going with the test but as yet not had a reply. kind regards
        Rita

  27. Andrea Murray says:

    Dr. Dhanani or Ben,

    Can either of you recommend a credible source in the US for purchasing glutathione powder for injection?

    Thank you!

  28. Dale Myers says:

    I have been interested in health and fitness for a while although when I ruptured my ACL in the military 8 years ago and 3 years of therapy I became very depressed and still have complications. I’ve had 5 ingroinial surgeries and now have wire mesh. I am 47, did the Dr. Pompa detox earlier this year, lost 18 lbs now weigh 147 lbs. I felt this podcast really hit home. Furthermore, I did a 23andMe test twice with inconclusive results. I have no idea about my geneology since I was adopted. It sounds like this testing, consultation and protocol might get me on a better path. I am super excited what might lie ahead. Thanks Ben for sharing your results. I look forward to learning more and gaining the confidence to share health tips to others.

  29. glenn ricci says:

    It was great podcast, very informative, its great to know to have someone in my own back yard, being 60 mins outside toronto, I am excited to see someone. With much of the podcasts focused on many Drs in the US, this excites me know i can take my family to Dr Dhanani. WIth our health care system up here and our insurance coverages, i wonder if we canadians can get any coverage?

    Thank you

    Glenn

    1. Dr. Dhanani says:

      Thanks Glenn
      If you’re in Canada, you might have extended health coverage…

      In health
      Dr. D

  30. LAURIE Coreno says:

    Is this available to someone who lives in New York?

    1. Dr. Dhanani says:

      Hello Laurie
      NewYork is an interesting place for genetic testing. Technically a doctor cannot order a genetic test for their patient, but an individual can order it for themselves… So it should absolutely be no problem at all to order the tests.

      In health
      Dr. D

  31. Danella Kaafar says:

    Is this available to people outside the USA and Canada? I’m in New Zealand. I couldn’t find that answer in the webpage. Thanks :)

    1. Dr. Dhanani says:

      Hello Danella
      We have patients all over the world so Kiwi’s are no problem!!!

      In health
      Dr. D

      1. Dave Fellows says:

        Great, me too! :)

      2. Danella Kaafar says:

        Wonderful. Thank you. Second question. I’ve had two babies born with tongue tie, the second significantly worse than the first. I assume that’s a genetic problem with my husband and I. Once I know the problem is that something that I could prevent happening with subsequent babies with the right advice?

        1. Dr. Dhanani says:

          Hey Danella
          Although I tend to stay away from saying ‘this symptom is caused by a dysfunction in this gene’ there is a strong correlation between a SNP called MTHFR. But there are also epigenetic variations. Please see the link from Ben Lynch (who has also been on our Ben’s podcast in the past) wrote:
          http://mthfr.net/the-intersection-of-tongue-tie-mthfr/2014/05/23/
          Hope this helps. There are also many many lifestyle and supplants that can be utilized to prevent and augment this in the future.
          In health
          Dr. D

  32. Dre says:

    How can we develop a stronger intuition of what lifestyle is most healthful or help others do so for themselves?

    On your podcast with Dr. Dhanani, he informed you that the 9P21 gene that indicates you shouldn’t engage is some specific types of exercise that increase vascular inflammation. You’ve mentioned several times in previous podcasts that you have reduced your over exercising, and instead you are incorporating movement consistently throughout the day, so maybe this was a truth you already had realized but maybe didn’t believe was ideal?

    Wouldn’t using the feedback you receive from being yourself everyday be the most useful and accurate as long as you could learn to listen to the part of you aiming to be the healthiest version of you?

    How much do you rely on your gut feeling to make choices rather than external data?

    Thanks for providing such a rad podcast!

    1. Dr. Dhanani says:

      Hello Dre
      Beautiful question. Thank you. All the questions on these posts are educated and informed. Ben has an amazing audience!!
      Although I am a firm believer in energy medicine and lecture on that topic I would ask one simple question. Can you feel mild/moderate high blood pressure? Or the future risk of having high blood pressure? How about the increase in the 4OH estrogen (that is linked to hormone dominant cancers and brain inflammation?). One usually feels that when symptoms have already appeared. What about the vitamin D transportation? Crap… that was more than one question, but you get my point. I understand the executive function, and exercise intensity and its relationship to internal contentedness … but this test goes beyond that in my opinion.

  33. Kyle says:

    Is it possible to plug the $400 report into existing tools like promethease to help me interpret the raw data? Or will I need a consultation to make sense of the data?

    Thanks for the very interesting podcast.

    1. Lara Butler says:

      I also use a (different) service that provides reports from raw data, so interested in the answer to this question.

  34. Dr. Dhanani says:

    Thank you for your comment Anthony. Functional genomics play an important role in optimizing ones health and I feel that looking at our health from this perspective is necessary. Regarding the cost, please consider the following: 1. The formulation is customized specifically for you and can contain up to 26 different ingredients. 2. The formulation can take several days to manufacture as it is very labour intensive and is NOT mass produced. 3. It is manufactured in a GMP certified lab and the ingredients are of the highest quality and purity. 4. It includes a very high quality fish oil as well.

    Personally, I used to take 11 different bottles of supplements regularly but now it is all encompassed (and more) into one formula so it actually saved me $$. But as always, you could also pick and choose which off the shelf supplements you’d like based on your genetic results.

    Also please remember that the supplements are NOT the only way to improve your genetic expression…. lifestyle factors (diet, exercise, mental awareness) are just as important.

    1. Matt says:

      Dr. Dhanani, thanks for the information. Can you tell us what the 26 ingredients are (not so that one would go out and purchase them, which would be inappropriate and not targeted, of course), but just so I can assess the value proposition? I take all kinds of different supplements, and am trying to weigh the suitability of your program in that context.

  35. Justin says:

    Fyi, on the Youtrients website the $920 price includes the $300 consultation so you’re not getting a 50% discount when you buy the test through this site. They’re not comparable packages. I think that may be a mistake in your description here. Thanks for the great episode.

    1. Dr. Dhanani says:

      You’re totally right Justin. If I recall correctly, at the time of the podcast, the consultation cost was a separate charge. However now, it is included, so with Ben’s code you’d be getting a 30% discount rather than the 50% discount. Apologies for the oversight.

      In health
      Dr. D

  36. Brian Potter says:

    I see that you’re using Almsbio glutathione. Short of having the option of doing IV, it looks like a solid product (added CoQ10 is a nice bonus). I’ve been using KofFactor liposomal glutathione for quite a few months now. You were a big supporter of that product, do you now endorse Almsbio as a better option?

    1. They're both solid products.

  37. Dave Pascoe says:

    Is a consultation necessary to understanding one’s Youtrients results?

    1. Dr. Dhanani says:

      Hey Dave
      The report that comes with the genetic test does explain each gene and its effect on the body, so general understanding would be provided. However if you find that not enough and you want to go through a deep dive then a consultation would be better as I can link various genes together and provide a summation of what you’d need to look out for… but you can decide this when you get the report sent to you. There is no obligation to get a consultation…

      In health
      Dr. D

  38. Shehina says:

    Great podcast! Very informative. I’ve had the genetic test done and am currently taking the supplements. The test provided me with valuable information about my functional genetics

  39. Brandi says:

    If you have already paid for the 23 and me testing for genetics and health, what is the best tool to use to capture some of the other elements not provided by the 23 and me? In previous podcasts you have mentioned other companies but as an average consumer who is not familiar enough with the medical understanding needed to process some of the data, what are the ones that specifically accept 23 and me data and will give a comprehensive but understandable report as to what to eat based on genetics, how to exercise, caffeine consumption, etc. I appreciate the time and dedication you give to providing a variety of information on your podcasts

    1. Markus says:

      I would add to that, Brandi, and would look for services that can re-process your 23andme raw data, to give you deeper insight into for example which supplements work for you.

      1. Dr. Dhanani says:

        Just note that these SNP’s are mostly taken in isolation (not functional) and most direct to consumer (if not all) technology DO NOT test for CNV’s or INSERTION/DELETION genes (do you have one copy or two — which is the difference between 50% function or 100% function). So you are getting an incomplete picture for the most part.

        In health
        Dr. D

  40. Ron says:

    Great podcast and thanks for sharing your results Ben. Do you know if the discounts being offered will expire, and if so, when?

    1. Should be around for a bit, but I wouldn't wait too long.

  41. Anthony Seddon says:

    surely Ben the 9P21 gene will be able to be edited out of ones DNA using gene therapy??

    1. Anthony Seddon says:

      if not now within a short time with the advancement of technology in the field such as CRSP

    2. Dr. Dhanani says:

      Hey Anthony.
      We are probably decades away from that technology. Additionally the 9P21 gene is not just one gene, but a locus of several genes that are measured together to determine vascular inflammation. Consequently, a negative domino effect would ensue…

      In health

      Dr. D

  42. Walter says:

    Awesome stuff. Keep your chin up Ben! Sounds like you’re not quite not superhuman, but clearly you’ve doing everything

    to maintain yourself!

    1. Walter says:

      Just to be clear, my deep respect for you Ben. Your dedication to helping first yourself and us. Very generous for you to share your
      own health state for us. You are a true leader and a living example of what hopefully will be the norm for all people in the future. People take better care of their cars than they do their own well-being albeit a cool car makes one feel better.

      1. Dr. Dhanani says:

        Hey Walter
        You are absolutely right!! Ive had several conversations with Ben and had the unique experience of working out with the man. Fit as can be and after studying his genetics I was even more impressed.

  43. Anthony Llabres says:

    Interesting podcast for sure. $199 a month for supplements..??? Is that correct? WOW… a tad on the RICH side wouldn’t you say..? I really enjoyed the perspective he offers, which prompts me to THINK at an entirely different level about health and wellness.

    1. Lara Butler says:

      Anthony, I’ll counter your observation on cost/value with my experience. I’m a former iron-distance triathlete who has suffered now predictable (in hindsight using the information in this Podcast and from Mark Sisson) health setbacks that put me in the hospital and forced me to stop working and travel. During the past 2 years I paid thousands of dollars to an athlete-focused coaching service with medical expertise on staff. They ran many tests ($3,000) and encouraged genetic testing so I ordered 23andMe testing with 2 different interpretation services. I’ve tried a refrigerator full of supplements. After less than 18 months they fired me saying they had reached the end of their ability to help me. I still can’t travel or go back to work. If CBM / Dr. Dhanani’s approach proves to be as effective and efficient as Ben describes in his experience, it will be less expensive for me!

    2. glenn ricci says:

      If you saw my cupboard you would say i was supplement junkie always trying to see what works? then my wife continually reminds i am not as fit as Ben lol. I would say in my perspective $199US is a good deal and would eliminate a lot of what i think i need?
      to your health my friend!

    3. Dr. Dhanani says:

      Thank you for your comment Anthony. Functional genomics play an important role in optimizing ones health and I feel that looking at our health from this perspective is necessary. Regarding the cost, please consider the following: 1. The formulation is customized specifically for you and can contain up to 26 different ingredients. 2. The formulation can take several days to manufacture as it is very labour intensive and is NOT mass produced. 3. It is manufactured in a GMP certified lab and the ingredients are of the highest quality and purity. 4. It includes a very high quality fish oil as well.
      Personally, I used to take 11 different bottles of supplements regularly but now it is all encompassed (and more) into one formula so it actually saved me $$. But as always, you could also pick and choose which off the shelf supplements you’d like based on your genetic results.
      Also please remember that the supplements are NOT the only way to improve your genetic expression…. lifestyle factors (diet, exercise, mental awareness) are just as important.

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