Episode #135: Interview With Health & Endurance Expert Dr. Phil Maffetone

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In this March 2, 2011 free audio episode: An interview with health and endurance expert Phil Maffetone, boiling fat off meat, running barefoot, tapering for a race.

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In this week's interview, I speak with Dr. Phil Maffetone, an endurance expert and someone who developed many of the protocols used today in aerobic training, including the Maffetone Method. Dr. Phil Maffetone is described as “one of the most sought-after endurance coaches in the world.” He entered the endurance sports scene in the late 70’s.

In addition to working with some of the world’s top endurance athletes, Dr. Maffetone has written dozens of books and articles on health, fitness and nutrition, including Complimentary Sports Medicine, Training for Endurance, The Maffetone Method, and In Fitness and In Health. During our discussion, Phil answers the following questions:

Why do you say that to speed up you must slow down?

What is the 180-Formula?

What is the MAF Test?

In “Training For Endurance”, you describe several stages of Overtraining Syndrome. What are they?

Why do you say that athletes can be fit, but unhealthy?

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Armi has a call in question about boiling fat off meat.

Chuck has a call in question about tapering for a race.

Jeff has a call in question about doing interval training in bare feet.

Here is a link to the A/B/C running drills I mention in my response to Jeff.

Casey has call in feedback about Shape21, and Lisa calls in to give an update on her Triathlon Dominator race.

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20 thoughts on “Episode #135: Interview With Health & Endurance Expert Dr. Phil Maffetone

  1. dlawiii23 says:

    Any chance you could fix the download and streaming link for this episode? Thank you!

    1. I should be working… but you do need to be a PREMIUM member to hear these older ones. https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/premium/

      1. dlawiii23 says:

        My fault! I was just googling "ben greenfield maffetone" and some other searches and landed here. Just downloaded the iPhone app (looks great!) and did a year subscription to premium. Thanks Ben!

  2. Joey says:

    How ca I listen to this podcast? i pad for a subscription.
    Thank you

    1. Joey, where did you pay?

  3. Harry says:

    Ben,
    Is there a way to see the show notes without going to itunes? On work computer and can not load itunes.

    Thanks
    Great podcast.

  4. Dustin says:

    Really enjoyed the interview and got a lot out of it, but prefer the longer Q&A sessions. Thanks for a great podcast!

  5. Gina says:

    More Q&A!! More Q&A!! Pretty please?? :)

  6. Mike says:

    Ben,
    Love what you do and I've learned A LOT of useful info from your listener Q&A. Haven't heard a podcast yet that didn't contain at least 3 questions I wanted answers to…until this last one when you cut down the number. My favorite podcasts are the ones that have more Q&A. And while some of your special guests have interesting ideas and knowledge…I often find myself tuning out if their area is too narrow for the average fitness joe.

  7. Andrew says:

    Hi Ben, I started recently to listen to your podcasts and I must say, they are awesome. I would love more listener Q&A, as we get answers and your opinion on a wide range of topics. Also, no problem with longer podcasts. Unfortunately, I have drive a lot, but you are with me most of the time (did not want to sound creepy). I learn a lot from your podcasts, thank you.

  8. feerlessfood says:

    Thanks for another great podcast and for answering my call in question Ben! I also agree that the listener Q&A are sometimes the best part because we get to your expertise, not the opinions of the special guests. While sometimes the podcasts are long, it's better that way and people can just fast-forward if they so wish.

    Also, we talked again about the benefits of grass-fed beef and the importance of fat. What about other meat products, like a grass-fed pork (pork tenderloin, chops, shoulder) or game like vension–would these have the same benefits that grass-fed beef would have?

    Thanks Ben!

    1. Primarily, what I touched on was the higher omega 3 fatty acid content and CLA content of grassfed beef. Any animal not raised on a grain diet will display similar characteristics. There is some data suggesting that Pork may not be the "cleanest" meat to eat, but that is a discussion for another day.

  9. Kyle Kranz says:

    Here are my own MAF test results. What I do is a super easy three mile warm up followed by 5 miles on the indoor track at 155 beats per minute.

    28 of Feb, 2011
    Mile # Mile 1 Mile 2 Mile 3 Mile 4 Mile 5
    7:45 7:24 7:30 7:27 7:34
    Avg Pace: 7:32
    Avg HR: 154

    9th of Dec, 2010
    Mile # Mile 1 Mile 2 Mile 3 Mile 4 Mile 5
    7:43 7:36 7:45 7:49 7:52
    Avg Pace: 7:45
    Avg HR: 155

    9th of Nov, 2010
    Mile # Mile 1 Mile 2 Mile 3 Mile 4 Mile 5
    Time: 7:52 8:03 7:50 7:57 8:00
    Avg Pace: 7:58
    Avg HR: 155

    28th of Oct, 2010
    Mile # Mile 1 Mile 2 Mile 3 Mile 4 Mile 5
    Time: 8:12 8:26 8:48 9:11 9:14
    Avg Pace: 8:46
    Avg HR: 155

    What you see is a gradual improvement in my pace, to where I did the test almost 30 seconds per mile faster than in November and over a minute per mile faster than in October!

    I have been doing low heart rate training for over a year now, but have only really been reaping the results in the last few months. What changed? Climbing. I still stay under 160 for 95% of my miles, but I can do some pretty intense climbing on the treadmill and still stay under 160 bpm. One benefit of the Maffetone method is it's much easier on your body. I feel like this is also a benefit of raising the incline instead of raising the speed when running. Going up hill is easier on your body and forces you to put out more power when running. This allows for better recovery and thus more running.

  10. Michael says:

    Hi Ben! Great podcast, I do enjoy the longer Q&A because it offers a larger variety of learning opportunities per episode. As far as the length of the podcast, I have no issue's with longer episodes, It always sucks to have to stop running and find a new podcast on my ipod before I have even reached my turn around point during my daily runs. Keep up the good work!

  11. Jack says:

    I used Phil's approach to training for many years when I first started
    triathlon. It does work but makes training time consuming.

    After listening to your interview with him and hearing the negative effects
    of too much high intensity training, I have questions about HIIT training.
    I've come to appreciate the ability to train in less time but wondering if
    I'm doing more harm than good. Could you comment on the
    similarities/differences between Phil's approach and your Dominator approach
    to training?

    1. Our approaches are very similar. The http://www.triathlondominator.com program actually uses a Maffetone-esque test every 4 weeks to evaluate your aerobic training progress. However, most programs that I have seen will then take this aerobic training heart rate and use it for nearly all the training, which requires many, many hours of training to get the same effect as the HIIT. The best case scenario, which I use, is to use that aerobic training number in just one long session per sport (swim/bike/run) per week, and do everything else as either interval training or skill training, with one off day or easy day per week. And that is the philosophy that Dominator is based on.

      1. Jack says:

        Thank you!

  12. Armi says:

    Hi Ben!
    Great work on the podcast, but please include more listener Q&A. Those are sometimes the best part and I really enjoy them. Also, please stop putting in extra testimonials, or at least place them at the end. they're kind of boring and don't really add much to the podcast. I'm very glad that you are experimenting with different ways of doing the show and keep up the great job!

    Armi

  13. Jeff Hoening says:

    Hi Ben – I dig the show at a consummable length – one hour for me. If your interview runs a bit long, cut down on the Q&A like you did this week to keep the show right around one hour. I have no problems with your special announcements or broadcasting testimonials. You provide tons of free, awesome content and advice and should shout these success stories from the roof of the Internet. Thanks for your efforts.

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