Ben Greenfield In The Hotseat: An Exclusive Sneak-Peek Into Ben’s Life Journey, The Launch Of Kion & Much More.

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In today's podcast, the roles have been reversed…

…*I* am the interviewee. This rare, up close and personal interview is a continuation of my recent four-part series. If you haven't been following along, you can click to read Parts One, Two, Three, and Four.

If you have been following along, you've already learned about my two-year journey into creating my brand new company, Kion, by answering the question that I pondered while roaming a Kauai beach two years ago…

…is it time to move on?

Should I take two decades of time spent immersed in the fitness trenches, over 4,000 health books consumed, a Master's degree in physiology and biomechanics, voracious studying of every nutrition, digestion and diet tactic in existence, hardcore lessons learned from subjecting my body and brain to the most masochistic events on the face of the planet, ten years of researching and answering podcast questions on everything from muscle gain to memory to migraines…

…and simply walk away?


…is it time to take my years of “dabbling” in the fitness industry and actually do something that helps people on a much more massive scale than me writing exercise programs, making naked YouTube videos of cold showers, running around in the forest throwing spears at hay bales and hacking together superfood smoothies in my kitchen?

Is it time to be open to greatness?

Be open to bringing to this world on a much more massive scale everything I've learned traveling the globe interviewing the world’s longest living, happiest, hard-charging, high-achievers, everything I've learned reading thousands of books and research papers on longevity, happiness, fulfillment, human potential, and everything I've learned immersing myself as a devoted student of the human body, mind, and spirit. Take that creativity, that curiosity, that thirst for knowledge, that education, that experience and that intuition and give it back to the world in a much, much bigger way than I ever have.

Well, there's a lot more to the story than just what's happened the past couple years. So to give you the full scoop, I sat down with Kion's Chief Operating Officer, Angelo Keely, for a deep-dive into my life up to this point.

During our discussion, I reveal plenty of insight and juicy secrets, including:

-The poignant history of my parents and how they ended up in Idaho…[10:00] 

-How my unconventional upbringing and education led to my first successes as a 14-year old entrepreneur…[15:30]

-My intro into tennis and how I fell in love with the sport…[23:10]

-How I – a scrawny book-loving computer geek – became an elite hard-charging athlete and a New York Times best-selling author…[28:22]

-My adventures as a 16-year-old first-year college student…[32:00]

-The “perfect storm” that brewed in my second year of university that led me to take a deep dive into exercise, nutrition, and entrepreneurship… [37:45]

-How I managed to work 3-4 jobs at a time while being a full-time university student…[46:45]

-What turned me off of medical school and becoming a doctor…[50:54]

-Here we break for a stretch, and to be guided through a meditation with Ziva Meditation Founder, Emily Fletcher… [58:40]

-How I met and married the love of my life…[70:40]

-Why I gave up bodybuilding to become a personal trainer…[78:15]

-How I was voted – and won – America's Top Personal Trainer in 2008…[87:50]

-What spurred me to write my first online training program and how it became a top-seller…[92:00]

-Why I value habit, and how habits help me be productive…[113:45]

-How I – an Idaho born and raised, home-schooled conservative Christian – came up with a company called KION…[122:10]

…and much more.

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11 thoughts on “Ben Greenfield In The Hotseat: An Exclusive Sneak-Peek Into Ben’s Life Journey, The Launch Of Kion & Much More.

  1. Jason says:

    This was an amazing episode, thank you for sharing your journey. It’s making me look at things in another light, as I took the other path with computers and even thought I am very good at what I do, I find it wholly unfulfilling as I am very disconnected from my “audience” and can never see what I do directly impacts a person. You are lucky you figured out what you love at a very early stage and have blossomed that to a full blown “empire.” If I could go back in time I would certainly choose something more customer interfacing, but it’s something I am even exploring now as I try to reinvent myself. Thank you for the inspiration.

  2. David Urman says:


    You are inspiring and heartfelt congrats on the new episode of your journey.. And you are so damn funny. As soon as you made the aluminum hat suggestion, I felt that my advocacy of them as a practice was validated until you said you were joking.

    Angelo, please add beat boxing to our next chat…great way to finish our calls!

    And Walter, Federer is pure poetry on the court. I have a closer emotional connection or identification with the pained expressions of Andy Murray. He clearly has suffered for his art and I admire that on some level.


  3. Sherwin says:

    I really appreciate this episode and want to thank you. Especially the last 20 minutes of it really spoke to me as far as where I am now, mentally.

    Your business model and the reason for doing so speak volumes to the person as a whole. I appreciate you.

    Love from California.

  4. Michael says:

    Hey BEN another great episode, good luck with your new project . I’m a Personal Trainer /Wellness Coach like to get more details on your Coaches training program .

    1. Thanks! I added your email to my list.

  5. Tim says:

    Fantastic interview and story Ben!

    How do we learn more about your coach training program / certification?


    1. I will email you soon!

  6. Michael says:

    I looked up qi (or chi, depending on how its transliterated) out of interest and found that first ideograph used in the spelling in Chinese can also mean “breath” or “air”.

    It was an interesting reminder for me that while we tend to have different words for what we regard as different phenomena or concepts, as you go backwards in time you find these coalescing in the vocabulary people use. And for them it would be not that there are multiple uses for a word but that it means all of these things at once.

    Take Genesis 1:1-2. You get “the Spirit[b] of God was moving over the face of the waters.” (RSV). The Hebrew word here is ruach, and this is translated in different contexts in English translations as Spirit, Wind, Breath, Air, etc.:

    That’s fascinating to me. C. S. Lewis’s friend Owen Barfield, who was a philologist among other things, is interesting on all this and the implications of it in “Poetic Diction”. Basically, archaic language was naturally poetic: it was saturated with meaning.

    Interesting to reflect, too, that something like Qigong is going to involve breath-work.

  7. Walter says:

    Absolutely informative and totally revealing Ben. You are a true intellect/athlete life enthusiast! The fact that you recognized

    the need to have your sons grow beyond you is awesome. Your family history is a record of constant generational improvement from your parents, you, and your children!

    ps. I love mathematics by the way.

    p.p.s. I will subscribe to your site for life IF: You spend a week in Switzerland interviewing, hanging out with Roger Federer and

    learning from the great man himself.

    1. Walter says:

      I wanted to add that my fandom of RF has extended to my own life. As example when I exercise I think about making

      a “Federer Face”. For those who have watched Fed strike a ball it’s a vision of serenity, there is no grimacing from him.

      His movement is pure elegance and ease—the hallmark of true genius.

      Regarding the mediation segment within this podcast, I do find myself telling myself to relax my shoulders when, for example

      drinking a glass of water since it easier then to tilt one’s head backwards—essentially relax body parts that play no roll in

      enhancing one’s performance. Also breathing is SO important.

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