[00:02:44] Podcast Sponsors
[00:05:23] Guest Introduction
[00:07:52] Your Unconscious, Your Nervous System and Epigenetic Trauma
[00:10:34] How Training To Link Deductive And Observational Analysis With Neurolinguistic Programming And Physiology Works
[00:12:26] How Olga Identifies Trauma Using Neuromuscular Indicators
[00:18:51] How Unconscious Programs Affect Behavior
[00:24:22] The Link Between Physiological Presentation And Interpretation Of Trauma
[00:29:25] Podcast Sponsors
[00:32:27] The Combination Of Modalities Used To Treat The Unconscious Mind
[00:46:54] An Analysis Of Ben’s Physiological Indicators
[00:53:02] An Analysis Of Ben’s Drawing As A Psychological Indicator
[00:55:20] Indications Of Multitasking Proficiency And Efficiency
[01:01:29] FOMO And Scarcity Versus Abundance
[01:02:40] How To Affect Behavior Change
[01:08:30] Chasing Challenges And The Sense Of Achievement
[01:14:10] Dr. Stevko's Individual And Group Services, Including Audio And Video Resources
[01:16:33] What Psychoimmunology Is
[01:17:53] How High Blood Pressure And Hypertension Fit In
[01:19:13] Closing the Podcast
[01:20:54] End of Podcast
Ben: On this episode of the Ben Greenfield Fitness Podcast.
Olga: Decide for their children often to become, for example, engineers, medical doctors. If it's your choice, I can predict a lot about you by even your choice for profession.
Ben: You got the photos and people are listening in and they want to know, okay, you have all this information, but what do you actually do with it?
Olga: I can give you a specific example, even what I swore in you, would you like?
Ben: Health, performance, nutrition, longevity, ancestral living, biohacking, and much more. My name is Ben Greenfield. Welcome to the show.
Alright, folks. Well, here we are. I have an interesting podcast episode for you today. It's with Olga, Olga Stevko. She is of Russian origin, by my calculations, as you will hear from her rollicking accent. And this was honestly a very interesting podcast for me because she wanted to psychoanalyze me by looking at my eyes, and my body movement, and my physical patterning. And apparently, this is what she specializes in is kind of like figuring you out in the way that you tick based on how you look, and she does this stuff like via Skype, for example.
And so, I decided that after she reached out to me and told me about her unique approach to typing you and to figuring out really just like the way that you think and different things you can do to improve your thought patterns or improve your productivity, or improve things like sleep, or creativity, or physical function, or mental function using some of the tips that she gives that she would be interesting to interview. And ultimately, it turned out to be a far different interview than what I expected. I was feeling a little bit loss during parts of it just trying to decode what exactly it is that she does and what it was that she was looking at. But regardless, I thought that there was enough interesting content in there to give you this episode. And happy July 4th, by the way, if you're listening to this podcast when it comes out.
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Alright, folks. Well, this is a special episode because this is a video podcast. I don't even usually do video podcasts. I didn't do my hair today, so my apologies. I can't do my hair anyways because it's the middle of the coronavirus quarantine at the time I'm recording this. So, I don't think hairstylists are considered to be crucial businesses. So, I'm just letting this thing grow all out.
And the reason I'm doing this podcast today as a video, not just an audio, is because my guest is Dr. Olga Stevko. And what she does is she actually analyzes people's patterns, their movement patterns, their faces, and she's going to be able to better explain what exactly she does. But essentially, she identifies how these patterns affect things like your nervous system, and your aging patterns, and your overall biology and health.
And so, what she does is she watches your face, she watches your posture, she listens to the quality of your voice, your verbal and your nonverbal communication, and then develops ways that you can enhance yourself based off of what she finds out. Now, I met Olga at a conference a few months ago and she was trying to explain to me what she did and I didn't quite get it, but I thought maybe what we could do is actually record a podcast because actually I find it interesting and I think you guys might find this interesting, too. So, Olga, before we jump in, for those of you listening in, all the shownotes for everything, including the video, if you want to watch the video version of this, you can go to BenGreenfieldFitness.com/olga. That's O-L-G-A, BenGreenfieldFitness.com/olga.
And that being said, Olga, this is a little bit an out of the ordinary podcast because I am still trying to wrap my head around exactly what you do. You don't have like a book that I've read or anything like that, so we're literally breaking new ground here as we get to know each other. But can you give me your best explanation of your background and what you do?
Olga: First of all, Ben, thank you for having me on your podcast. And I will briefly explain, neuroscience has shown that 95% of our life experiences are shaped by our unconscious programs.
And everything that is creeping around us in environment, it doesn't matter what, either what you see or what you hear, what you touch, what you smell, what you taste can trigger some unresolved trauma, even past genealogically or formed during–even womb experiences and usually childhood.
And whatever is going in environment can create a response of your nervous system with flight, fight, or freeze, and that can affect pretty much everything in your body, including your muscles and affect your immune system, cardiovascular system. And that's why I can see how people respond. It will show up in everything, in their face, posture, how they walk, quality of voice, even how they think, communicate, even in writing.
Ben: Okay. So, you're actually identifying whether or not somebody's been traumatized?
Olga: It's not necessarily traumatized because now, science shows that trauma can pass even genealogically. For example, you have a peaceful, wonderful childhood, but because your gene sex can express epigenetics for anything, for example, you can re-experience shorten traumatic experiences even it's not yours.
Ben: Yeah, yeah. We've talked about that on previous podcast most recently, I think, with David Rabin. We were talking about this wearable device that he developed to help with trauma called an Apollo. And we talked about epigenetic trauma, and I certainly won't deny that that exists. We talked about the Dutch winter hunger and other examples of–for example, people on plant medicine journeys and releasing epigenetic trauma, whether sexual or violence or anything like that. So, I totally get where you're coming from with that, but what I'm curious about is where you make the leap from someone being traumatized to then you somehow figuring out how to determine that based on face, posture, voice, et cetera. Like, where were you trained? How do you learn to do this stuff?
Olga: Actually, Ben, what I do, I created this methodology. I got some ideas and concepts from many different fields. For example, I use my knowledge in medicine because I'm trained as a medical doctor, how your brain is functioning and your body is functioning. Also, I got an incredible skill in medical school deduction. I use a lot of deduction. Also, I always was very, very observant since my early childhood, my observations, also intuition, and also my knowledge in neuro-linguistic programming. I'd be working on identity level and belief system. I pretty much combine many modalities. And also, I studied philosophy in medical school and it changed my mind forever, how I think about everything.
Ben: You studied philosophy in medical school?
Ben: At the same time? Is that common?
Olga: Yes, because actually it was obligatory in Russian medical school to study some psychology for how you communicate with patients and philosophy, how you think about certain things.
Ben: Interesting. Alright. Well, I want you to walk me through how exactly this works, like what you look for and exactly how you're identifying trauma because when you were preparing for this interview with me, you had me email you a photo of my face. You even had me draw a picture, draw like a doodling picture and send that to you. So, putting all these pieces together, begin to walk me and the folks who are listening or watching this through how this actually works, like, how someone works with somebody like you to actually identify trauma, and then what they do from there.
Olga: I am looking at everything in system, and I will explain. For example, some psychologists use a term neuromuscular look, and it's a kind of tension in muscles rigidity, also kind of fixed map in the world. In this case, people who had traumas, they can relieve kind of very limited how they perceive the world themselves in a rigid way like being in a box. And pretty much your face, body posture, how you walk, even your drawings will show all of that.
Ben: How do you know that that's trauma versus someone just might be stressed out that day? Or maybe, I don't know, you hear people talk about things like electro hypersensitivity, maybe somebody's around a bunch of Wi-Fi and 5G in a stressed amount, or maybe somebody ate the wrong thing for lunch and they've got indigestion. How do you differentiate between all these other things that might be causing someone to be in a sympathetically driven state?
Olga: With indigestion, just for example, food poisoning. Of course I will see that distress. I will ask questions so I will understand that something is not usual happening. Only, you're asking how we'll see if it was a trauma. Actually, what psychologists showed when trauma happened, it's pretty much even you're not traumatized in everyday life, only shortened things like sounds, smells, what you see can create re-occurrence of the trauma. It's so unconscious because whatever you experienced, your sensory perception of reality can trigger that unresolved trauma, and it will be all unconscious and you can see it in your body, and in your face, and in your voice.
Ben: Okay. Alright. Well, but let's go ahead and walk through exactly how this works. So, you got the picture, you got these photos of me, you got my posture. Do you only use me as an example of what you do?
Olga: Actually, I would explain what I'm looking for first, okay?
Ben: Yeah. Okay.
Olga: For example, in face and posture, I will look for muscle tension. For example, in the body, if there is rigidity, or on the contrary, fluidity. And I will see it —
Ben: Wait, rigidity or what? What was the other thing you said?
Olga: If your body's fluid.
Olga: Rigid or fluid —
Olga: What I see that constant muscle tension, it can create even shortened expression of your face you have most of that time. Of course, if you will try to change it consciously, it will work for some short period of time, but not always. And muscle tension can create shortened deeper lines in your body. For example, your forehead, like nose and mouth is–it can create shortened deeper lines. And also, what I would look for even when I listen to the voice, voice is created–for example, your muscles that take part in breathing, if it's, for example, tension in those muscles, it won't be enough airflow to the vocal cords.
Also, even your face, if you have tension, for example, in your jaw or around your muscles, around your mouth, it can create changes in your voice. That's why even by listening to their voice, I will get a sense where tension is in what kind of muscles. And by observing people, I have been doing it for almost 17 years, I saw patterns of even in voice, facial expression, posture, and shortened patterns will show consequences of what they see or what they hear, and I am able to predict how people are, either they're expressing themselves completely or withholding, not expressing, suppressing certain things. And also, even how people express themselves verbally or in writing, if they can connect deeply with people and themselves or not.
Olga: I can predict a lot of how their life is because of that.
Ben: And you can do this kind of stuff like on Zoom and on Skype, too? Do you actually work with people virtually?
Olga: Oh, yes. Often I work virtually. Only sometimes Zoom was kind of more crispy video. And sometimes I ask for additional photos, for example, freeze posture, and also video recording. I can maybe look for a little bit longer period of time. For example, two, three, four minutes.
Ben: Okay. Alright. Got it. So, you're looking for all this stuff, and you're making me very self-conscious, by the way, as you're saying all this because I'm chewing gum right now, I don't know if that messes you up, but you're making me very self-aware. So, those are all things that you look for, and then where do you go from there?
Olga: I do it just to identify what unconscious programs cause shortened issues. And when I identify what it is, it's possible to work on these unconscious programs. And in this case, many things can be shifted when you transform shortened major unconscious programs.
Olga: Even how you think and perceive yourself, people in the world can be shifted, even your voice can be shift, how you look can be shifted.
Ben: Can you give me some practical examples of the kind of things that you look at? Are we talking about like whether somebody's lips are pursed, whether their head's cocked to the side? What something like that would actually mean, like when it comes down to brass tacks?
Olga: Yes, I can give you a specific example, even what I saw in you, would you like?
Ben: Sure, you can start with me. You can start with like a success you have with a patient or whatever. I'm happy to go with both if you want. I just want to know how this actually fleshes out once you start to put into practice.
Olga: Let's talk about, for example, I look for a position of neck —
Olga: –how neck and your head is aligned with entire body. For example, what I saw–and maybe you're not even aware of that, Ben. Are you aware that your neck position is a little bit forward?
Ben: Yeah. I've seen that before.
Olga: And also, kind of little bit in, kind of shoulder somehow up. Are you aware of that?
Ben: Yeah, yeah. To a certain extent, I've noticed that before, like basically a little bit more of a forward neck posture.
Olga: Yes. And even you are an incredible athlete, you exercise, you work your muscles, and it's an indication that if you talk about freeze, flight or fight response, it can be a both, it can be freeze. And I'm talking about unconscious reaction, kind of unconscious need to protect yourself, I call it as I chortle, kind of going in inward, kind of need unconsciously to protect yourself.
Ben: Doesn't everybody had that unconscious need to protect themselves?
Olga: Possibly, only in different ways, how it can be created, what they see in your face or posture. I believe most people or all people have need to protect themselves, only how [00:22:38] _____ can be in a different way.
Ben: Okay. So, then once you see something like that, what do you then assume from there? What do you do from there?
Olga: It's possible to identify what causes it, what kind of unconscious programs. And actually, it's healthy to have that need to protect yourself. For example, if you're on a top of a high-rise building and if you do not have that need, some people can look over, not be careful and fall, for example. That's why unconscious mind creates that protection all the time, only some people, the unconscious mind overuse it. And in some situations, it's in a contrary, create problems for these people. And I will give you another example. You asked me about more examples.
Olga: For example, when I listen to their voice, I would hear for, for example, pitch, volume, melody, if it's monotone or not, speed, intonation. For example, it's indication when people are talking too slow, for example. And sometimes monotone can be–monotone or not, it can be an indication of more freeze state of nervous system. And in this case, it can be different variations.
Sometimes for these people, their mental processing can be very fast, but they can be more responding, more slow in body, they're slow to move in life, for example, or it can be different metaphorically, on a contrary. They're doing a lot, but because in that freeze state, it's no clarity, not right strategies how to, they're doing a lot and not moving forward in life with the speed they would like. They're kind of like spinning their wheels or kind of a metaphor hamster on a wheel doing a lot, exhausting themselves, but not moving forward in life with speed and where do they want to go. Does it make sense?
Ben: Mm-hmm. Yeah, it makes sense. So, when you see this though, like kind of the disconnect for me is how you could see that and then say, “Okay. You've been traumatized versus–whatever. You might have weak shoulder retractors, or you might have a lot going on today and you're multitasking and you're doing the hamster on a wheel thing. I mean, where do you go from what you've just described all the way down into something like trauma?
Olga: By trauma, there is a different kind of trauma. For example, if somebody had that car accident, they broke bones, they had surgery, it's a different kind of trauma. Of course, I will see it, but it's a different thing what I'm talking about. Everybody had experiences of any kind of unpleasant events or traumas during early childhood some, and mostly past genealogically. For example, science shows with some experiments, there are some signs that trauma passes genealogically even through several generations. That's why I'm talking about–often it's not even your trauma, it's because of your genes’ expression for shortened experience in your life.
Olga: And that's why that experience is possible to see in all, like muscle tone, how your voice is toned is what I'm talking about.
Ben: Okay. Let's do some more practical examples. So, go ahead and use me. What based on me sending you a picture, and I want to know more about what you're looking for when someone draws a picture and sends it to you, and then my face and my posture, what do you see that is then going to give you some type of information that would change my life for the better or enhance my biology? You even say on your website which I reviewed, for example, that you could enhance things like aging and longevity? To me, I'm still trying to wrap my head around how that would actually work.
Olga: First of all, I will explain how it will work because there a lot of different practitioners who are doing, for example, resolving traumas and they're doing successfully, very successfully. For example, some psychologists, NLP practitioners, there is a field of psychology, bioenergetic psychotherapy, and they are looking for similar things. For example, face, muscle tension, posture. And what I would do, identifying shortened unconscious programs. And I'm not talking about some people conspecific beliefs, I'm talking to unconscious programs that create this response with flight, fight, and freeze. When you transform these programs, people do not need to do anything. Many things can be shifted like automatically, for example, even your speed of mental processing, even your voice, speech. And I had creases when face was shifted so much because muscle tone was completely different. People ask that person if she or he had plastic surgery because people even could not recognize that person.
Ben: You mean after you work with them, their face actually changed?
Ben: What'd you do? What'd you do to accomplish that?
Olga: Just by resolving shortened–transforming unconscious programs.
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Well, yeah, I understand that part, but how do you actually shorten that? Are you talking about like, do you put somebody on some kind of a supplement or are you doing some kind of like body therapy? Is it talk therapy? Like, what exactly are you doing to change a face like that, for example?
Olga: I understand now what you're asking. No, it's not any supplements. I do not do talk therapy. What exactly do I briefly explain? Again, I'm using a combination of different modalities. I studied for years. The work of Dr. Milton Erickson, a psychiatrist who use trance–are you familiar with Milton Erickson?
Ben: I've heard Milton Erickson's name before, yeah.
Olga: He used hypnosis. I do not do hypnosis, only I studied trance work, and he used language patterns. What I do pretty much when identify from freeze posture, drawings, what unconscious programs cause it, I will use your unconscious mind to resolve it, and I do not do, like again, hypnosis. I created a process how to. For example, if we are watching on your neuromuscular look that created that neck position related to not safe–and not safe, it's a very big program, they can be subprograms, and I would ask to draw a drawing tool —
Ben: Like the drawing that you had me make?
Olga: Yes. And we will bring up to awareness what exactly caused it, what kind of unconscious programs, and each unconscious program will cause you to experience some physical sensations, or certain emotions, or metaphorical sensation, and I will explain to you. For example, you would feel kind of, for example, emptiness in some part of your body or on a–for example, very big tension, feel even pain for some people, or for example, kind of anxious feeling, butterflies or sense of chaos as an example, in your head or heart. And during this process, or on a contrary, some people cannot feel at all, but there is a feeling of not feeling. It can be a sense of numbness or shutting down. And I will identify on a metaphorical sense kind of I heard often.
For example, there is no way out and I am in prison, for example, for no reason, and you would focus on that–we will choose one specific sense. And I will ask your–not you–we will establish a communication with your unconscious mind, and I do it. Your unconscious mind, for example, will create a feeling or movement in one finger, and you would focus on that specific sensation, any kind, physical or metaphorical or emotional. And your unconscious mind, I will ask your unconscious mind to find all memories that created the sensation. And you do not need to recall any memory. Sometimes it's impossible because your unconscious mind even has access. I cannot understand how, but somehow even to your genealogical experiences, womb experiences, even very early childhood experiences, and your unconscious mind will find all memories that created that, and we will do work, the kind of subprocesses or this process.
And after this process, pretty much this unconscious program will be transformed and that feeling will be pretty much gone and your nervous system will never respond the same way around the same triggers. Those trigger situations will be the same. For example, the same people, what causes you to feel uncomfortable was the same situation, for example, time pressure, and your immune system will never respond. And in this case, your muscles, your cardiovascular, your immune system, endocrine will never respond either. That's why the shift is so dramatic. Does it make sense to you?
Ben: Has any of this stuff have been researched?
Olga: Some, yes. For example, I did find a lot of research about, for example, past trauma genealogically. Also, I did research of about unconscious mind and what it does affect. For example, I read an article of Dr. John Bargh. He's a Professor of Psychology at Yale University and he wrote that unconscious thoughts are–pretty much real unconscious mind will affect more things, how we perceive ourselves the world around us, and also other people, and also affecting all decision we can, all of your choice, your behavior, motivation, and he has science behind that. If you think you choose in life, it's your choice, it's your decision, it's not. Most of the time, it's your unconscious mind.
And let me tell you something interesting. Even by your choice, what you choose for profession, unless you–for example, in India, parents decide for their children often to become, for example, engineers, medical doctors. If it's your choice, I can predict a lot about you too by even your choice for profession. Also, Ben, if I will drive with you in your car as a passenger and you won't change anything, for example, you created shortened environment in your car, and also how your drive strategies, I can predict many things about how you use the same strategies in your relationships. And for example, in your business. Do you want me to give you a specific example for driving, for example?
Ben: Yeah, sure. Fill me in here.
Olga: For example, I was in the car, sometimes when people, last moment, they are greeting exit from a highway and they do it all that time, in this case, they have tendencies to do the last moment for everything in life, everything, projects, for example, to pick up certain things, all of that. For example, if some people always get too close to cars, they might have boundary issues. And the same in relationships, even they don't know people, they try to get too close. And for example, tell too much information or to become your kind of best friend right away. Does it make sense?
Ben: Yeah, yeah. So, basically what you're saying is that the way that someone drives is basically giving you insight about their personality, the potential for trauma, the potential for stress, whether they're in a sympathetically driven state. And to me, that just seems pretty intuitive that if someone is an [censored] driver or is a last-minute signaling off the highway type of driver, that might be the way that they live in other elements of their life. I don't necessarily know if that's rocket science or if that's news to anybody that more patient driver follows who the rules might be more organized type of person, or perhaps is less sympathetically driven versus the person screaming down the highway at a million miles an hour or forgetting to signal or something like that. But how does that actually flush itself out as far as you actually seeing something like that and affecting change in someone?
Olga: And actually, a few stuff I would like to mention, I'm not looking for trauma for driving, I'm looking that kind of unconscious strategies, meta-programs, kind of drives, and how you do one thing, it goes congruently in all areas of your life. For example, strategies how you do driving, you do pretty much similar in your business and relationships.
Ben: So, in terms of, again, like the practical example of how this works out, like if you're working with somebody like me, for example, what do you do next? You got the photos of me, you have this picture that I drew, and people are listening in and they want to know, “Okay. You have all this information, but what do you actually do with it? What happens from there?”
Olga: It depends what would you like to achieve? If you heard, for example, a specific issue–and even people do not know that it's possible to permanently, dramatically change your face, posture, and voice. For example, I was asked to change somebody's voice because people knew it's possible. Most of the time, people don't know it's possible.
Ben: To change their voice you mean?
Olga: Dramatically. For example, I heard someone and he knew–I told that person, I told him, it is possible. He was a tall man, like really masculine developed and he had very high pitch, very nasal voice and he was embarrassed of his voice. And even he tried to change his voice consciously and it did not work. And we identified what exactly some neuromuscular works in his body, in his muscles that took part in breathing in his face, and we changed unconscious programs that developed that. And pretty much, in three, I believe, sessions from that voice, his voice became almost like a body-toned singer, very deep, no nasal sound, completely dramatically changed his voice, and that change was permanent. You don't need to do any exercises or to try to do something else. It's just when it's done, it's permanent.
Ben: What did you do to change his voice?
Olga: It's what I told you before. We identified exactly what unconscious programs created, and as a result, what that affected in his body. And we worked on each unconscious program that was when you that was manifesting in shortened sensation in body. For example, he had a sense of inability to breathe, kind of holding breath, breathing shallow, kind of heaviness in chest. And after, transformed that unconscious program that created that, his voice became deep. And after we resolved some unconscious program that created shortened kind of–I don't know what it is, is that constant inflammation or certain things affecting like around his nose that created nasal sound. And to solve, he had really big lock, spasm in his jaw. His jaw was not like–wasn't fluidity to open it easily. When we resolved all of that, that's why his voice permanently shifted. Does it make sense?
Ben: Yeah, yeah. It's interesting. Okay. So, based on all this, what would you say about me?
Olga: I saw a lot of information in your photographs and in your drawing. And for drawing, I would like to tell you how we usually do it. I would ask more questions about drawings. And even by looking at somebody's drawings, I have maybe already thousands of drawings, I saw similar patterns, they're not the same, only very similar patterns how people draw, and it can be expression for freeze, flight, and fight response. And let me tell you what I saw so far. Like, we can talk about that for one and a half hour hours of only what they saw. Like, I will try to do it more briefly because we don't have much time, right?
Olga: First of all, in your face, I see neuromuscular locks. And I see a lot, Ben–and can I ask you, because I don't know, how old are you?
Ben: I'm 38.
Olga: You are very young.
Ben: Oh, thank you.
Olga: You're welcome. You look amazing for your age. And if you did not have those neuromuscular locks, you would look 10 years or 15 years even younger. You have a lot of neuromuscular lock in your forehead, a lot of lines around your eyes, and also in this area, what do you call it, like from your nose to your mouth and in your chin? And I can predict shortened things where you have neuromuscular locks. And also, I would look for symmetry or eye symmetry in your face and posture. And you have some eye symmetry in your face, and you can do it yourself if you put the photograph you sent to me.
If you cover a half of your face and look on one part of your face, left part, and look in your right, sometimes you see completely different expression of ways, if you are not experienced in yourself at the same time. And I see it in your face. For example, I can see around your left eye, you have much stronger neuromuscular lock, more spasms. Let me ask you, are you aware if you have highly awareness to sounds?
Ben: Not really. I don't think I have any more awareness to sounds than the average person, that I'm aware of.
Olga: How about irritation or anxiety about shortened sounds?
Ben: Not that I'm aware of.
Olga: Okay. Because it can be some internal sounds or external. And I would like to ask you, have you ever tried to cover, not at doctor's office, to cover one eye and look at the world through that eye, and another eye, and look at the world through that other eye? For example, if you can see somehow more clear, more detail through your right eye.
Ben: Well, I guess I could try it right now. So, are you saying, what, cover my right eye and look at my left eye? And now I'm covering my left eye and looking at my right eye.
Olga: You need to get your time to adjust.
Ben: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Olga: Cover your left eye. Look at things around color, details. And after you move your hand, let your eyes to adjust and cover the other eye.
Ben: I would say that things seem a little bit better through the left eye, just subjectively, but they don't seem dramatically different.
Olga: Left eye. Because I see a difference, like again, what muscles are creating around your eyes. For some people, what they see in you, for some people, not for all, concrete, even headaches, even sensitivity to light, but not for 100% of people, this kind of neuromuscular locks around your eyes and in your forehead.
Ben: And so, when you see that, what does that mean?
Olga: It can mean, what I can predict, maybe you're aware of not, like again, it can change–even you exercise a lot, it can change the two, can create a relief. You have like a lot going on in your mind. Did you notice you have–like I can predict you are very comfortable in multitasking?
Ben: Yeah. I would say I'm decent at multitasking. I can juggle a lot of things at once or do multiple conversations at once, keep track of a lot of things at once, typically.
Olga: Perfect. You are talking about conversations because not everybody can do so. And if you focus inward, like your thoughts, mind–and especially looking at the drawing, if you can open the drawing you sent to me, like you can bring more awareness how your mind works.
Ben: Okay. So, what can you tell about that drawing that I made? And by the way, you told me you should take three minutes. I only gave myself three minutes to draw it. So, it's definitely not a Pablo Picasso. What did you learn about it?
Olga: Do you see your drawing now?
Ben: I don't have it in front of me, but I remember exactly what it looks like. It's actually up on my kitchen table right now.
Olga: Okay. In this case, remember your drawing.
Olga: Remember your drawing.
Olga: I remember it vividly, too. They were kind of lying, some interrupted, some not complete circles, lines in these circles, dots inside. Do you remember?
Ben: Yeah, yeah.
Olga: Bring awareness into your head, into your mind.
Ben: Bring the awareness of what I drew?
Olga: Awareness in your mind, yes.
Ben: Okay. Alright. I'm imagining, I can see what I drew in my mind.
Olga: Yes. When you become aware of your mind, for example, some people can't describe [00:53:45] or see chaos in their head. By your drawing, I can tell more or less your thoughts are organized, only there are multiple, multiple thoughts at the same time. Yeah.
Olga: And looking at your drawing, I can predict about you that sometimes you even don't finish one thought, you go to another thought. You might have multiple thoughts thinking at the same time. Do you experience it?
Ben: Yeah. I think everybody experiences that, don't they?
Olga: No. Some people don't have that ability to focus at the same time on multiple thoughts. Like you told, you are able to have conversations at the same time with multiple people. Not everybody can do so. And you think it's normal because it's like how your mind works. Also, I can predict about you that metaphorically, you have open multiple things at the same time. They're not completely finished and kind of you're working on it at the same time and possibly unconsciously thinking about all of that.
I will give you as an example. When you're working on a computer, do you experience multiple windows are open?
Ben: Yeah. I mean, not as many as some people have seen, but typically, I've got probably like half a dozen tabs open. But I mean, for me, that's just logistically productive because I've got my mail tab, my feed reader tab, an article I might be working on and a couple of research papers. And so, yeah. I mean, I don't think that's uncommon to have multiple tabs open on a computer, is it?
Olga: Some people do not like that. They have, for example, two or one or three because they would feel, on a contrary, interest. Like again, it's your mental strategies, how your unconscious mind is working. And did you have that tendency, especially when you were younger, sometimes finishing things, sometimes not?
Ben: No. I usually finish stuff. That's one of my problems is I start a lot of stuff, but I'm pretty stubborn, like I usually finish most things I start.
Olga: Well, I can tell about you. You're very determined. You're going to eventually do it. It's what I'm talking about. For example, if you can finish now but somehow other things are coming up, maybe you think it's more important than other, what I'm talking about, keeping open at the same time multiple things.
Ben: Oh, yeah. I'm always working on multiple projects. Yeah, absolutely.
Olga: Yes, because I saw it in your drawing. Some people cannot do that. They feel uncomfortable. They need to finish this now, and after, to move to the next things. It's your strategy.
Ben: Okay. Alright. Well, I probably could've told you that. I don't know if I needed a doctor to look at a drawing to tell me that.
Olga: Of course, shortened things, what I'm talking, you are aware, shortened things you are not aware. The most important, what these things can cause in your system. And by resolving that, because it's unconscious program cause it, I would like to tell you because I work on similar unconscious program for some people, this unconscious program, even you are very energetic, I can tell, this unconscious program can take your energy, can waste a lot of energy because at the same time, without your awareness, unconsciously, you're focusing on too many things. And by resolving that, you'll be able to do it, but kind of more time sufficiently.
Ben: Yeah. Again, isn't the same for everybody? I mean, like if somebody's working on multiple projects, they would obviously have a little bit more energy. If they freed up the energy being devoted to multiple projects, they just focus on one thing or focused on one conversation. I mean, again, I think that's pretty intuitive, isn't it?
Olga: First of all, not 100% can do it. We shorten strategies. Some people cannot multitask. It's too overwhelming and stressful for them. They won't do it.
Ben: Yeah, but what I'm saying is the people who do multitask, you're saying you'd have more energy if you didn't multitask, but I think that probably most people kind of know that.
Olga: Actually, it's how you multitask.
Olga: You can multitask in different ways, like again, there are different strategies. And in one way, it can save your energy. In another way, it can waste your energy.
Ben: How could you multitask in a way that would save your energy? What would be an example of that?
Olga: When you resolve that unconscious program that create kind of taking your energy and efficiently multitasking, you will be multitasking efficiently. For example, you unconsciously will choose what to focus on first and how much to accomplish. And even you're not finished, you won't be even unconsciously thinking about that 'til it's time to go back to the task. Maybe it does not make sense to you?
Ben: You're saying that if you stop working on a task, it's going to bug you or you unconsciously think about it while you're taking a break from it?
Olga: Possibly, yes.
Ben: Okay. Yeah, it makes sense.
Olga: In this case, you'll be lesser focused, finished here, and put it on hold without thinking even unconsciously, and next, and next.
Olga: And it's only one of examples. I will give you another example. I do not have strategies how to read fast. I don't know how to teach it. For example, I had some clients, by resolving shortened unconscious program, suddenly they started to read twice or three times faster without trying, faster mental processing [01:00:42] and reading.
Ben: Because they weren't multitasking?
Olga: No, no. It's nothing to do with multitasking because that unconscious program that created reading fast. For example, it's not safe to me something what you read. It's unconscious you even don't know. And some people unconsciously pay more attention or overread several times. It's all unconscious they don't know why. Does it make sense?
Ben: Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah.
Olga: It was possibly during childhood or possibly genealogically is as if you're punished for missing something, or losing money because they missed something. Does it make sense?
Ben: Yeah. Like a FOMO, they want to do a lot of wants for fear of missing out or for living with the spirit of scarcity versus abundancy. Yeah, that certainly makes sense.
Olga: You mentioned fear of missing out. I got so many clients, they had fear of missing out and their life schedule was too busy. They could not say no to anything, to any event and what trouble because they had fear of missing out, even they were exhausted, for example.
Olga: And when you resolve it, not anymore. They will be more strategic of what they do.
Ben: Interesting. Alright. So, basically, if I understand correctly, what you do is you look at someone's posture, you do a video call with them like this, you look at their face, you look at something they've drawn, you identify areas in their life like excess sympathetic nervous system activation, evidence of trauma, evidence of improperly structuring their tasks, et cetera, and then you do some kind of like a therapy with them to help them to make changes?
Olga: I don't call it therapy because I don't do psychotherapy analysis, or talk therapy, or cognitive behavioral given strategies, not. Just what I told you before, identifying exactly what kind of unconscious program cause it, what this unconscious program manifests in body, in a way of spasms of muscles or feelings in body, and it's possible to completely transform it. And when it's done, the results are [01:03:17] _____. People don't need to do any kind of techniques, exercises, even think about that. They will be different how they perceive themselves, the world, and people. Even how people would perceive you because you would shift so much, even people by looking at you, it's kind of first unconscious impression, would think differently about you. Also, it will change even your thinking patterns, behavior, how you feel, relationships. Pretty much, so many things will shift, automatically and permanently.
Ben: Give me an example of what you do, like with me, like what would be something that you would do to change something that you saw that could be unfavorable based on either my drawing or my photos or the video? Like, how would you affect change with someone like me?
Olga: You'll be surprised, Ben, when you will hear what I'm going to say because some people are not aware at all, even I tell them what I see, what I can predict. And some of them told me, “Oh, it cannot be true.” And after, they contact me and they tell me, “Yes. Actually, it is true. Now I'm aware of that.” Because starting this conversation, your unconscious mind is listening in. It's bringing awareness what's creeping in and your unconscious mind will continue to communicate even we're done with this conversation. And people are more aware of what we're talking about. What I noticed about you; you are guarding yourself.
Ben: Mm-hmm. Guarding myself?
Olga: Guarding yourself unconsciously. You are guarding your heart. You let yourself out to people, to the world, and to some, maybe big degree, and you do not let people in on a deeper level unless people you know very, very well and you trust them. You do not let people in.
Ben: Isn't that pretty common that you would not really fully open yourself up to people unless they were somewhat close to you or unless you trusted them? Like to me, that seems like a universal human characteristic.
Olga: Not necessarily. It depends how. If you are around somebody strange or aggressive, of course you not letting that person in. I'm talking about when you consciously feel safe, there is not, for example, a dangerous person in front of you. It's because of these unconscious programs, unconsciously won't let people in. Let me give you a very brief example about myself.
Olga: Many years ago, I attended some seminar and that person taught dreams, any kind of night dreams, instant dreams, daydreams, and everybody did draw a drawing. And I did draw a drawing, and I did not understand what they did draw. And back then, I can see that myself, letting people in, letting myself out, connecting on a very deep level because I'm a highly empath and a compassionate. It's what I thought. I'm kind, compassionate. I let people in. I showed that drawing to him and that person told, “You are not letting people in on a shortest level.” I was shocked. I did not know that. I asked all of my close even friends and acquaintances, “Is it true? Please be honest.” They all told yes, and I had no idea about that.
In this case, I can predict, Ben, might be even you don't know, you connect with people only on some level, not on the deepest level that's possible. When you resolve those unconscious programs that cause it, without trying, you'll be able to do it. And in this case, even your posture, neck position can shift too because it's all about not bigger, not safe, unconscious program, and it's all unconscious.
Ben: Interesting, interesting.
Olga: I noticed something else about you.
Olga: Maybe you're not aware, Ben. Like again, what I tell people they're not aware —
Ben: So far, I'm pretty aware of everything you've told me. None of this is breaking news, but what did you notice?
Olga: I noticed there are some unconscious programs inside and that's why it's affecting, like creating neuromuscular locks in your eyes, around your eyes, and I saw it in your drawing, kind of empty spaces. And unconsciously, some part of you experiencing kind of not necessarily you feel it a lot, kind of emptiness. Let me tell you what people describe my clients. Some people told me even around friends and family members, at some moments, they felt kind of like alone, disconnected, not billowing. And I'm not feeling you feel it, not necessarily, but that sense of emptiness, or they felt sad, they had unconscious need to feel those empty spaces metaphorically unconsciously. In this case, I can predict possibly, not 100%, possibly, you do amazing things in life only when you have done certain things. You accomplish a lot, you are satisfied, not for a long time, not for a long time. There is a sense next to do something else in order to be more fulfilled, more satisfied. Do you have a sense of what I'm talking about?
Ben: Yeah. Certainly, I like to achieve. I like to finish a race or a competition or a challenge and sign up for something else that challenges me, absolutely.
Olga: Yes. And after that, tell me, for how long do we feel so satisfied you have done it, for how long?
Ben: Oh, maybe 15 seconds.
Olga: That's right. It's unconscious, unconscious need to fill that space inside to do something else in order to be satisfied. And unless you resolve this program, it's about doing constantly things. And I can predict you feel all time in your life in order to be very busy. And also, possibly even it's hard for you — like again, exercising a lot can compensate it. I can tell that often, it's hard for you to not to do anything.
Ben: Well, when is anybody not doing anything at all? I mean, even my wife who relaxes a lot, she'll sit out on the front porch and drink a glass of wine and stare out at the beautiful prairie behind our house, but she's drinking wine and looking at the prairie. I mean, unless you're unless you're asleep or unconscious, you're always doing something, right?
Olga: Not necessarily. For example, I had a client and she conceded herself optimistic, and she was very driven and accomplishing a lot. And during our work, what she realized she could not be still and quiet on a contrary, parasympathetic mode of nervous system created more unease.
Ben: Yeah. I would say that if I do not allow the time for me to do things like that, like meditation, relax time with family, strumming my guitar, et cetera, that happens, but I know myself pretty well and I know that those type of things are important, just from my overall stress and relaxation and happiness level. So, I actually do I think a pretty good job having sessions during the day where I duck out for 20 minutes to meditate or just sit with my wife and have a glass of wine or play a family board game or something like that. So, yeah. I mean, like I certainly am one of those guys who doesn't really sit through an entire movie without one to go read a book or do something a little more productive. But I feel like after growing to know myself and recognize some of the tendencies, you're also pointing out that I do a pretty good job now stepping away and finding time to just do nothing at all.
Olga: And it's really important and you learn how to do it. And already, it's an indication. You cannot see through the movie. I call it mental and physical restlessness. Like, if you're watching a movie, you might think about something maybe you forgot to do or it's unconscious need to get up, excuse to go to the bathroom, to the kitchen because it's kind of unconscious, of course, no permission, inability to relax and have time for yourself, or sense not safe. Let me ask you something. Do you know your genealogical family routes, like your generation? For example, ask some parts coming from Northern Europe, for example, Great Britain, I could predict it even by looking at you, I don't know how. What other family routes do you have?
Ben: A little German, a little Ashkenazi Jew, a little French Québec. And yeah, I think those are really the primary countries of origin, if you look at my ancestry data.
Olga: Thank you. Somehow I could predict British family routes because I see certain similar patterns where genealogically people are from. What I noticed when people have genealogy from certain countries, they have more genealogical traumas, and in Great Britain, Germany, and Jewish family roots, a lot of war, violence, even suppression, not expressing yourself. And that's why it's not unconscious, not allowed to see it. Otherwise, if you see it, something bad can happen, danger. Does it make sense?
Olga: That would be programmed genealogically. And to resolve these unconscious programs, I had client's mental physical restlessness on a 0 to 10, 10 as the biggest, 10. Now, it's one, and entire life changed, how they think, and ability to watch a movie, to relax, all of that.
Ben: Interesting. Well, this is very, very fascinating what you do. I know that we're starting to run short on time, but you actually, you work with people one on one, like folks can actually go to, what is it, doctorolga.com?
Olga: Yes. I work one on one, not full time. I have high-end services. And also, I do group session separately for women and men.
Ben: Okay. Alright. And then I know you also have some free audios, and I'm going to embed in the shownotes over at BenGreenfieldFitness.com/olga, one called Calm and Relaxed, and one called Fall Asleep Easily and Effortlessly. So, you also create these audios to help people out. Are these recorded by you?
Olga: Yes. And also, there is a video webinar I did with a medical doctor, Jill Carnahan —
Ben: Oh, yeah, I know Jill.
Olga: — who's an expert in functional medicine.
Ben: Okay. Cool. And so, folks could go — and that one's about stress and anxiety and how to release that, right?
Ben: Yeah. I know you guys did that during this coronavirus quarantine. So, probably a fitting time to do that.
Olga: Yeah. Can I add something else about you?
Ben: Sure. Go ahead.
Olga: These unconscious programs I told you will influence your nervous system. If you're familiar with psychoneuroimmunology field in medicine and your immune and nervous system will influence your immune system and cardiovascular of course, I would like to tell you because of shortened unconscious programs, even like I heard about people who are extremely healthy, still it created health issues because of some suppressed emotions, for example, unresolved trauma. For example, even some people extremely healthy had cancer or heart diseases or heart attack because it can create even health conditions.
Ben: Oh, yeah. I mean, we know that based on everything from “Biology of Belief” to David Hawkins' “Healing and Recovery” and a whole host of other writings about how emotions and beliefs and thought patterns, and probably the best book about that is “The Healing Code,” underlying chronic stress affects overall risk of mortality. So, yeah. I mean, I think that that's something that has been well-proven.
Olga: And I would like to ask you, do you know if somebody in your family on mother side and/or father side had any kind of, for example, heart conditions in, for example, high blood pressure, low blood pressure, or any kind of heart condition?
Ben: Oh, my mom has a little bit of high blood pressure, yeah.
Olga: Because what causes hypertension, it is anxiety and stress, and it's possible to identify this program and resolve, and not anymore. I had clients with very high blood pressure. After resolving these programs, I've warned them, “Be careful with the medication you are taking for blood pressure. Tell your medical doctor and measure your pressure.” A couple of clients almost fainted because their blood pressure became too low because already it was stabilized, normalized what we did and they will continue taking, for example, medication.
Ben: Yeah. I think it could be multi-factorial, lack of nitric oxide production from not enough sunlight, poor omega-3 fatty acid balance. There are other factors, but yeah, I certainly agree that stress plays a pretty significant component.
Olga: Oh, significant.
Ben: Yeah. Well, this is all quite interesting. You know what I'll do, if folks are interested in doing a Zoom session or Skype session with you, or downloading any of these audios, or watching the webinar you did with Jill Carnahan, I'll just link to all that stuff if you go to BenGreenfieldFitness.com/olga. That's BenGreenfieldFitness.com/O-L-G-A. If you're interested in having Dr. Olga take a look at you, your posture, your face, your drawings, and maybe giving you some information about yourself, if you find this intriguing, then I'll put all that information up there for you at BenGreenfieldFitness.com/olga. And Olga, thanks for reaching out and for sharing this stuff with us.
Olga: You're welcome. There can be several different topics on this area, and like again, there is so much information —
Olga: — like what they saw and researched over the years in anti-ageing and, for example, longevity. And very briefly, for example, some of my clients without doing anything, they should get so much on, by chemistry, how they looked. People thought they did the entire plastic surgery, they reversed age up to 20 years.
Ben: Yeah. You mentioned that. Alright. Well, if anybody ask me if I got plastic surgery, I'll tell them, “No, I just I just talked to Dr. Olga.” Alright. I will put the links for everything over at BenGreenfieldFitness.com/olga. And Olga, thanks so much for coming on the show today.
Olga: You're welcome, Ben. Thank you.
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Dr. Olga Stevko, MD is an expert at helping people achieve rapid transformation for professional and personal growth. Her clients include over 1,000 entrepreneurs, CEOs, executives, celebrities, doctors, and other professionals and their family members. Dr. Stevko helps her clients identify and transform unconscious programs that create issues in various areas of their lives, including health, relationships, and business.
Her unique methodology allows her to see patterns in how the nervous system reacts to the outside world with flight, fight, and freeze responses. These patterns affect both the mind and body, how people look, think, feel, react, communicate, and behave, as well as aging and longevity.
By observing her clients' faces, posture, quality of voice, and verbal and nonverbal communication styles, Dr. Stevko can rapidly assess their patterns in life and what unconscious programs cause them. After transforming key limiting unconscious programs, Dr. Stevko's clients experience fast and permanent results. Clients have also reported dramatic positive changes in their face, posture, voice, mental processing, communication, behavior, and energy.
During this discussion, you'll discover:
-How your unconscious shapes your life experience and is tied to your nervous system…7:06
- Neuroscience has shown that 95% of our life experiences are shaped by our unconscious programs
- Everything in our environment—what we see, hear touch, smell, and taste—can trigger some unresolved trauma
-What epigenetic trauma is…8:41
- Environment creates nervous system responses like the fight, flight, or freeze modes, which affect pretty much everything in your body—including muscles, immune system, and cardiovascular system
- How people respond shows up in their faces, posture, how they walk, quality of voice, how they write
- Trauma is passed on genealogically; genes can express traumatic experiences
- BGF podcast with David Rabin
-How training to link deductive and observational analysis with neurolinguistic programming and physiology works…9:57
- Olga created her methodology by combining aspects of her training in medicine, philosophy, and psychology
-How Olga identifies trauma using neuromuscular indicators…12:13
- Looks for tension in the face and posture. Is the body rigid or fluid?
- Differentiates source of trauma/tension by how distress is manifesting
- Muscle tension creates certain lines in the body, like in the forehead, nose, and mouth
- Tension in the jaw and vocal cord muscles affects voice
-How unconscious programs affect behavior…18:50
- Identify what unconscious programs cause certain issues
- Looks at how the neck and head are aligned with the entire body
- Ben’s neck position is a little bit forward and a little bit in; could be an indication of an unconscious need to protect himself
- Unconscious mind creates that protection all the time
- When listening to voice, listen to pitch, volume, melody, intonation…
- Talking too slow and in monotone, for example, could be an indication of a more ‘freeze’ state of the nervous system
- Sometimes an indication of a very fast mental process, but a slow physical reaction
-The link between physiological presentation and interpretation of trauma…24:30
- Everybody has experienced unpleasant events
- Experiments show that trauma passes genealogically, even through several generations
- Trauma manifests in muscle tone, voice, posture
- Energetic psychotherapy practitioners are successfully resolving trauma by looking at face muscle tension, posture, etc. by identifying certain unconscious programs that create the fight, flight, or freeze responses
- Transforming these programs could automatically change the speed of mental processes, voice, speech, even facial muscle tone
-The combination of modalities used to treat the unconscious mind…32:30
- No supplements, talk therapy, or hypnosis in Dr. Olga's treatment modalities
- Uses a combination of modalities, some of which were studied under Milton Erickson, who used “trance” and language pattern, among other techniques
- Identifies trauma from the face, posture, and drawings, what unconscious program caused it, uses the unconscious mind to resolve identified trauma
- Created a how-to process that brings up awareness of what caused the trauma, what unconscious program causes the experience of physical sensations, shortened emotions, or metaphorical sensations
- A feeling of emptiness in some part of the body, great tension, even pain for some people, some kind of anxious feeling, “butterflies,” a sense of chaos—or in some people, not feeling anything, a sense of numbness, shutting down, no way out
- Focus on one specific sense and establish communication with the unconscious mind
- Unconscious mind finds all memories that created that sensation
- Work on the unconscious program processes
- The unconscious program will be transformed, the feeling will be gone, and the nervous system will never respond in the same way around the same triggers
- Yale University Psychology professor John Bargh: Unconscious thought, and in general, the unconscious mind affects most things, how we perceive ourselves and the world around us, affects our decision making, choices, behavior, motivation
- John Bargh Study: The Unconscious Mind
-An analysis of Ben’s physiological indicators…47:10
- Ben’s face, without the neuromuscular looks on his forehead, eyes, mouth, and chin, would look 10 to 15 years younger
- Look for symmetry or asymmetry. Ben has more neuromuscular looks on his left eye; “subjectively, things look a little better through the left eye”
- A lot of things going on in Ben’s mind, multitasking…
-An analysis of Ben’s drawing as a psychological indicator…53:02
- More or less, Ben’s thoughts are organized
- Multiple thoughts at the same time, sometimes doesn't finish one thought before moving on to the next
- Some people don’t have the ability to focus on multiple thoughts
-Indications of multitasking proficiency and efficiency…55:20
- Multitasking manifested in work, such as multiple tabs while working on a computer
- Ben usually finishes things he starts
- Most people cannot multitask
- Leaving a task unfinished will bug you incessantly, expending more energy
-FOMO and scarcity versus abundance…1:01:34
- Some people have a very busy life schedule, can't not say no
- Living with a spirit of scarcity versus abundance
- Activities become more structured after treatment
-How to affect behavior change…1:02:38
- Identifying the unconscious program and what it manifests as in the body: muscle spasms, feelings, and transforming this unconscious program will change behavior
-Chasing challenges and the sense of achievement…1:08:36
- Ben is very driven and has an unconscious need to do something else after accomplishing a challenge or a task
-Dr. Stevko's individual and group services, including audio and video resources…1:14:12
- Olga Stevko’s website
- Calm and Relaxed free audio
- Fall Asleep Easily and Effortlessly free audio
- Webinar with Dr. Jill Carnahan on how to release stress and anxiety
-What psychoimmunology is…1:16:35
- Psychoneuroimmunology; subconscious programs influence the nervous and cardiovascular systems
- Unresolved trauma can create health conditions that manifest into disease, even in healthy people
- Book: Biology Of Belief by Bruce Lipton
- Book: Healing and Recovery by David Hawkins
- Book: The Healing Code by Alexander Loyd
-How high blood pressure and hypertension fit in…1:18:02
- Anxiety and stress cause high blood pressure and hypertension.
Resources from this episode:
- Biology Of Belief by Bruce Lipton
- Healing and Recovery by David Hawkins
- The Healing Code by Alexander Loyd
- BGF podcast with David Rabin
- Apollo wearable (15% discount automatically applied at checkout when you use my link)
- Study: The Unconscious Mind by John Bargh
- One-on-one sessions with Dr. Stevko in person at her office or on Zoom. Each session is 3 hours (on Zoom), and in her office can be 3 hours or an entire day for up to 6 hours each day (if people are traveling from different states or countries, and they want to resolve their issues fast). She also does group sessions on Zoom separately for men and women for 6-8 people. Each session is 3 hours, and there is a package of 4 sessions. Click here to sign up for any of these options with Dr. Olga (and be sure to mention this podcast when you do!).
- Recently Olga did a webinar with Dr. Jill Carnahan, who is a medical doctor and expert in functional medicine. She is giving Ben Greenfield Fitness Podcast listeners free access to said webinar, “How to Make Your Immune System Stronger and Release Stress & Anxiety.” In it, Jill Carnahan and Dr. Olga Stevko share powerful resources, strategies, and techniques on how to be well, resilient, and calm. Click here to access it for free now.
- Free audio: “Calm & Relaxed.” This deeply relaxing audio can help you release stress & worries, feel calmer & more relaxed, and clear your mind.
- Free audio: “Fall Asleep Easily & Effortlessly.” Another deeply relaxing audio that can help you unwind & clear your busy mind, fall asleep faster & easier, and feel more refreshed & energized when you wake up.
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