How To Use BPC-157: A Complete Dummies Guide To Healing The Body Like Wolverine.

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For the past four weeks, I’ve woken up, stumbled out of bed into the kitchen, opened the refrigerator, fetched a tiny bottle of something called “BPC-157” and proceeded to stab myself with an insulin syringe to inject it into various parts of my body.

Using this strategy, in just one month, I have…

…shut down gut inflammation from a bout of travel, racing and stress…

…completely healed golfer’s elbow, medical epicondylitis and inner elbow pain…

…and healed a torn upper hamstring with lightning speed.

This stuff should be illegal.

It probably will be soon.

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But I simply couldn’t keep this potent healing tactic to myself. Enjoy, and proceed at your own risk.


What Is BPC-157?

BPC-157 is, in a word, a peptide.

A peptide is simply a sequence of amino acids.

OK, OK, lest you be donning a white lab coat and cringing from that simple description, then I’ll be more specific: a peptide is a compound consisting of two or more amino acids linked in a chain, the carboxyl group of each acid being joined to the amino group of the next by a bond like this: OC-NH.

In the case of BPC-157, the peptide is a sequence of amino acids with a molecular formula of 62 carbons, 98 hydrogens, 16 nitrogens, and 22 oxygen atoms (C62-H98-N16-O22).

Should you care to know the nitty-gritty specifics, that comes out to a fifteen amino acid sequence of the following:

L-Valine, glycyl-L-alpha-glutamyl-L-prolyl-L-prolyl-L-prolylglycyl-L-lysyl-L-prolyl-L-alanyl-L-alpha-aspartyl-L-alpha-aspartyl-L-alanylglycyl-L-leucyl-; glycyl-L-alpha-glutamyl-L-prolyl-L-prolyl-L-prolylglycyllysyl-L-prolyl-L-alanyl-L-alpha-aspartyl-L-alpha-aspartyl-L-alanylglycyl-L-leucyl-L-valine.

Yep, that’s the long, fancy name for BPC-157.

BPC, for reasons you’re about to discover, stands for “Body Protecting Compound”. Your body already makes it in your own gastric juices in very small amounts, where it serves to protect and heal your gut. But if you can get the super concentrated version and get it into your system, it has an extremely high level of biological healing activity just about anywhere you put it

And if many of the amino acids above look familiar to you, there’s good reason. I’ve talked about them before. I’ve used them orally for quite some time to heal injuries more quickly, to keep the body in anabolic state during or post-exercise, and to stave off central nervous system fatigue during long bouts of exercise. I have a quite comprehensive article about the oral use of amino acid tablets here.


What Does BPC-157 Do?

BPC-157 is surprisingly free of side effects, and has been shown in research that’s been happening since 1991 to repair tendon, muscle, intestines, teeth, bone and more, both in in-vitro laboratory “test-tube” studies, in in-vivo human and rodent studies, and when used orally or inject subcutaneously (under your skin) or intramuscularly (into your muscle).

Just take a look at the following, all of which was hunted down and identified by the good folks at Suppversity in their article on BPC-157. BPC-157 has been shown to:

BPC-157 is also known as a “stable gastric pentadecapeptide”, primarily because it is stable in human gastric juice, can cause an anabolic healing effect in both the upper and lower GI tract, has an antiulcer effect, and produces a therapeutic effect on inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) – all again surprisingly free of side effects.

As demonstrated in the research studies cited above, BPC-157 also accelerates wound healing, and, via interaction with the Nitric Oxide (NO) system, causes protection of endothelial tissue and an “angiogenic” (blood vessel building) wound healing effect. This occurs even in severely impaired conditions, such as in advanced and poorly controlled irritable bowel disease, in which it stimulates expression of genes responsible for cytokine and growth factor generation and also extracellular matrix (collagen) formation, along with intestinal anastomosis healing, reversal of short bowel syndrome and fistula healing – all of which can extremely frustrating issues in people who have gut pain, constipation, diarrhea and bowel inflammation.

So if you have frustrating joint pain that won’t go away, some kind of muscle tear, sprain or strain, or gut “issues”, you should definitely keep reading.


How To Get BPC-157

So how can you get our paws on this stuff?

You can find BPC-157 at a few different peptide suppliers on the internet. I’ll warn you: kind of like online pharmacies, the websites are cheesy, and they technically aren’t allowed to sell or advertise these kind of peptides as something appropriate for human consumption or human injection, but you can pretty easily find it and buy it if you know how to use your Googling skills properly.

I can’t ethically say any of these forms of BPC-157 are “superior” since none of it is technically legal to sell for human use (you’ll notice each site specifies that it is for laboratory chemical research only) but figured I’d give you a few choices in case one of the websites above is out of stock at the time you happen to be reading this article.

For reasons you’re about to discover, I also ordered, from MedLabGear:

-One box of insulin syringes, preferably 1ml/1cc, with 28 gauge 1/2 inch attached needles (the slang term for these syringes), among self-injectors of peptides and hormones, is a “slin pin”.

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-One 30ml bottle of bacteriostatic water.

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-One package of alcohol cleaning wipes.

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Compared to spending several thousand dollars to fly over to Europe for a stem cell injection, that is, cost-wise, a tiny drop in the bucket, especially when you consider the fact that this stuff can permanently heal and strengthen weak joints, connective tissues, muscles and gut. 


How To Mix BPC-157

When you get your bottle of BPC-157, it is going to look like this:

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See how it’s a powder? You have to “reconstitute” that powder.

This is where the bacteriostatic water (also known as “BAC water”) comes in. Here’s what to do with the BPC-157 powder and BAC water:

  1. Pop the caps off both the BPC-157 and BAC.
  2. Gently alcohol swab the rubber stopper on the BPC-157, then let it dry. Same goes with the BAC vial.
  3. Dose out the correct amount of BAC. In the case of a 30ml bottle of BAC, if you fill three insulin syringes full of water, then very slowly and carefully (peptides are extremely fragile) inject each of those syringes into a 5mg bottle of BPC-157, you are going to nearly completely fill the 5mg bottle of BPC-157.
  4. Once the 5mg bottle of BPC-157 is full, then based on this very handy Peptide Mixing & Dosing Calculator, each time you inject a 1ml/1cc syringe into it and pull that syringe back to the fifteenth tick mark, you are going to have yourself approximately 250mcg of BPC-157.

Voila. You’re done. You now have a  bottle of completely reconstituted and ready-to-rumble BPC-157. It will look something like this.

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Before and after reconstitution, keep your BPC-157 away from UV rays, sunlight and heat. It will remain stable at room temperature for up to ten weeks, but for best storage and results, you should store in your refrigerator, in which case it will stay stable for up to six months. It will stay stable in a freezer for up to two years.

The stuff is super fragile. I cannot emphasize enough the importance of very slow and patient reconstitution. When you spray the BAC into the BPC, aim for the sides of the BPC bottle, and don’t spray directly onto the BPC powder itself. When you draw the BPC up into the syringe for injection or oral use, turn the bottle of BPC upside down very carefully and then draw the liquid up into the syringe very slowly. When you inject it or spray it into your mouth, inject it very slowly. If you keep it in the refrigerator, keep it away from things that might knock it over or jostle it around.

You get the idea. Treat your BPC like the fragile, million-dollar healing elixir that it is.


How Much BPC-157 To Take

There is an abundance of research on BPC-157 and it has been shown to be effective systematically when injected once daily at anywhere from 1-10mcg per kg of body weight. In most cases, this comes out to a dose of anywhere from 200mcg up to 800mcg. Some folks report the most success dosing twice per day with 250-350mcg for a total of 500-700mcg per day.

So as you can see, there’s quite a bit of variability in dosage recommendations.

I initially began to use BPC-157 for golfer’s elbow (inner elbow pain also known as “climber’s elbow” or “medial epicondylitis), and I personally, based on the majority of the research studies in humans, settled upon a self-administered subcutaneous BPC-157 injection of 250mcg in my left elbow on one day, then 250mcg in my right elbow the next day, for a total of two weeks. At this point, my elbow pain had completely disappeared, so I stopped.

Although, as I’ve mentioned, BPC-157 is free of side effects at normal dosages, I can tell you that the first time I used it, I accidentally dosed with 2500mcg instead of the 250mcg I planned to initially trial with, and I felt for about the next four hours what I would best describe as a slight amount of irritability and grumpiness, which was likely due to the anabolic cortisol response from a very minor overdose. This feeling passed within four hours, and I’ve felt no ill-effects since with daily dosing of 250mcg.


How To Inject BPC-157 Or Take BPC-157 Orally

BPC-157 acts systemically.

This means that whether you inject it subcutaneously – an easier and more-pain free under-the-skin method that you should do as close to the area of pain as possible…

….or you inject it intramuscularly – the more painful and teeth-gritting version of essentially “stabbing” the needle into the muscle as close to the injury as possible…

…or you simply spray it into your mouth orally…

…the BPC-157 going to render some amount of benefit in whichever part of your body needs healing.

Oral administration of BPC-157 is quite straightforward. Just spray it into your mouth (remember: very slowly), hold it in your mouth for 90-120 seconds, then swallow.

Subcutaneous injections are also relatively simple, as long as you’re cool with needles. You can either pinch an area of skin near the injury site and thrust the needle into that pinched area of skin, or if (as was the case of my elbow) it’s too tough to simultaneously pinch your skin and inject yourself, you can recruit a helper or just “angle” the needle so it slips under unpinched skin. Remember, always clean the rubber stopper with an alcohol swab and clean the area of injection with an alcohol swab. Always.

 Here’s a video that shows you the basics of subcutaneous injection.

Finally, intramuscular injections are the toughest. The same rules apply as subcutaneous injections: clean, clean, clean with alcohol both the rubber stopper and the site of injection. However, unlike a simple under-the-skin injection, for an intra-muscular injection you must stab the entire needle through the skin and into the muscle as close to the area of pain as possible. Like I mentioned, I used this method with my hamstring, and just attempted to think happy thoughts and dwell upon rainbows and ponies as I jabbed the needle in. Considering how quickly my hamstring healed, the brief moment of discomfort was all worth it.

Here’s a video that shows you the basics of intramuscular injection.

For both the subcutaneous and intramuscular injections, you’ll experience better results and a more complete absorption and administration if you “massage” the general area of injection and pain for about 30-60 seconds with your fingers to really work the BPC into the tissue.


How Long To Take BPC-157

Like I mentioned above, my bilateral inner elbow pain completely disappeared after I self-injected subcutaneously with 250mcg BPC-157 on alternating days to either the left elbow or right elbow for a total of two weeks.

After the elbow pain was gone, I strained my right hamstring while hill sprinting, and began daily intramuscular “lower-butt” injections of BPC-157 for a total of ten days, at which point, my hamstring was completely healed and pain-free.

Finally, for the pure joy of oral self-experimentation, I sprayed from a syringe 250mcg of BPC-157 into my mouth for a total of seven days. The BPC-157 induced a very similar feeling to the feeling I experience when drinking a cup of bone broth or eating a bowl of soaked chia seeds: a feeling of the GI tract being “coated” with some kind of protection, and a complete lack of any digestive issues, gas or bloating following any meals during that week-long time frame. I realize that’s a bit of a woo-woo explanation, and didn’t actually involve me gut testing for inflammatory markers like calmodulin or lactoferrin, but from an N=1 standpoint, it certainly seemed to me as a quite viable option for anyone who struggles with irritable bowel issues or gut inflammation.

Based on the current human studies to date, BPC-157 can be safely administered for four weeks, followed by a two week rest. Speaking from my own personal experience, in which pain subsided after no more than two weeks of injections, I wouldn’t imagine you’d need to repeat this cycle unless you re-injured yourself.


Summary

OK, so you may be now wondering why in the heck your physician, physical therapist, surgeon, gastroenterologist, etc. hasn’t told you about this stuff.

Here’s the deal: since BPC-157 is a completely natural gastric juice peptides, it’s technically not patentable, period. That means big pharma can’t make money off BPC-157, and that means it’s not getting marketed to your local doctor or hospital or anywhere else in the health care system. It’s also not available as an FDA regulated drug, or even considered to be “sellable” for human use.

You may also be wondering if it’s legal for sports governed by bodies such as USADA or WADA.

Here’s the deal: although some “peptide hormones, growth factors, related substances and mimetics” are indeed illegal for use in sports governed by these organization, BPC-157 is not currently listed as one of those illegal compounds. Yet.

I’ll readily admit that when it comes to BPC-157, despite it being a peptide you can actually find in your own gastric juices, long term studies in humans are relatively sparse. It may also eventually be banned by sport governing bodies such as USADA and WADA.

But in the meantime, since no adverse reactions have been seen in any of the short-term human clinical trials to date, I’m taking full advantage of this stuff, and if you’re injured, have gut inflammation or have any other nagging issue addressed by the research I’ve mentioned in this article, you may want to seriously consider adding BPC-157 to your rapid recovery arsenal. 

Do you have comments or feedback about BPC-157? Have you used it yourself? Do you have your own peptide experiences or tips to add? Leave your thoughts below and I promise to reply.


The information in this article is provided as an information resource only, and is not to be used or relied on for any diagnostic or treatment purposes. This information is not intended to be patient education, does not create any patient-physician relationship, and should not be used as a substitute for professional diagnosis and treatment.


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795 thoughts on “How To Use BPC-157: A Complete Dummies Guide To Healing The Body Like Wolverine.

  1. Darrel says:

    I have injured my back a few times in the past and now have chronic muscle pain in the QL. Will BPC 157 work to heal a very tight and knotted up Quadratus Lumborum?

  2. Kate says:

    Hi Ben

    Thank you for putting out such a detailed post. I’ve had crohns for 14 years and am 2.5 years infull remission. I do a lot naturally and started BPC after reading about it

    I followed your protocol for 1 bottle (almost 3 weeks) and feel amazing. Really strong and resilient. Wondering how long you’ve seen it used for st once without side effects. Part of my wants to use it indefinitely!

    Thanks again!

  3. Dan says:

    Hi, can you email the link of the website you bought from. I have concerns about purity from other places and need purity for my “research” as there cannot be any variables.

  4. Trevor says:

    Hi, the link to purchase the bpc 157 doesn’t show anything, just a blank picture and writing “easytouch super saver combo pack”. What is actually the link to purchase the bpc 157? Thank you.

  5. Dean says:

    In regards to injecting into the hamstring, where exactly do you inject?? Also, do you have to worry about hitting any nerves in your hamstring ?? Thanks

  6. Moe says:

    Re bacteriostatic water: i’ve been using 0.22um syringe filters to sterilize lab-grade deionized water ($30 per GALLON) to make sodium citrate anticoagulant for intra-articular PRP joint injections. Anyone here thinks it necessary to use bacteriostatic water for subcutaneous? If so, why?

    1. This could be a good question for the Kion Community. It’s a completely free online community of like-minded people who both have advice and are seeking advice. Facebook.com/groups/GetKion/

  7. Stephanie says:

    I am more interested in the medical uses, i.e. the healing of fistulas, however I have been unable to find any human studies. You mention that there have been human studies. Can you send me a link, or the title of the peer-reviewed journal article where it has been published? The studies on rats are very intriguing and I don’t know why there aren’t more human studies being done.

  8. Robert Day says:

    I fell off my road bike just over one year ago. Small interstitial tear in left supraspinatus rotator cuff. Have not been able to do a pull up or even do band physical therapy for the past year without the pain persisting and intensifying. Could not even work a hacksaw or really do anything without worsening and intensifying pain. Also have had persistent right shoulder rotator cuff pain due to “overuse”. I’m 38 years old.

    Just found out about BPC 157 thanks to Ben. Currently on day 11, 2×250 mcg daily. One 250 mcg shot in each deltoid. Unbelievable, positive results. No pain. Doing max 20 pull ups now. I no longer want to commit suicide because I can now live my life, workout, and do anything I want physically. Shame on our healthcare system for not allowing this amazing elixer. Thank you!!!

    1. Dave says:

      Where did you purchase your bpc-157? Having a hard time finding good source. Thanks

      1. Robert says:

        Peptidepros. Fast shipping and good quality.

    2. Emiliano says:

      Hi Robert,

      I know exactly how you feel, 2 months ago I injured my rotator cuff while at work and now doing my job and working out it is a torture. I really would like to give a try to the BP 157 but I am afraid to buy a poor quality product. Can I asked you where you purchased it?

      Thank you very much

      1. I unfortunately can't make specific recommendations for this particular product. One thing you could also do is ask the Kion Community. https://Facebook.com/groups/GetKion

  9. nicola says:

    i don’t know where to buy, by googling it seemes that all the sites are scammer. Can you tell us some good sites? i can’t found nothing in the article exept medlabgear but they don’t sell it

  10. nicola says:

    hello really interesting reading! I’m thinking of treating my back pain (sacroiliac area) with the bpc..just not sure where to inject. I thought of an intramuscular injection but in the sacroiliac area there are no large muscular masses and so I do not know how to do it. So I should give an injection on the butt or subcutaneus in the specific area?

    thank you, i hope you can help me!

    1. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. Just as a recommendation I would say to inject subcutaneously around the injury site.

    2. Paula Baulch says:

      I suffer from arthritis in the SI joints and 2 bulging discs in my neck. I also have leaky gut syndrome. I was prescribed BPC-157 orally for leaky gut syndrome. However, it’s taken away the pain in my SI joints and my neck. I still take meloxicsm and tizanidine for both of these issues, but I feel I no longer need trigger point injections nor ablations. I’ve only been on it for 3 weeks, but I’m pleased with the amount of pain this stuff has taken from my body. A doctor from Body Logic MD prescribed this for me. The prescription is $350/month, which I feel is absurd. However, foregoing the procedures I was having does bring the total out-of-pocket cost down.

  11. Ramon Castellanos says:

    Hey Matt, thanks for your response. To me, it’s not clear whether the time frame he gives is for: before or after its reconstituted. There is one-time frame given “it will remain stable at room temperature for up to ten weeks, but for best storage and results, you should store in your refrigerator, in which case it will stay stable for up to six months. It will stay stable in a freezer for up to two years” – So my question to you Matt….is where in that quote do you see the distinction on time frame on a BEFORE and AFTER? The before and after are lumped together in one statement. Clearly, once its reconstituted, the time frame is different.

  12. Ramon Castellanos says:

    Hey Ben, thanks for the response. Maybe I am an idiot here but this:

    “Before and after reconstitution, keep your BPC-157 away from UV rays, sunlight and heat. It will remain stable at room temperature for up to ten weeks, but for best storage and results, you should store in your refrigerator, in which case it will stay stable for up to six months. It will stay stable in a freezer for up to two years.”

    Does not answer the question of how long it will last BEFORE you reconstitute it. I could not find an answer in your article or anywhere else for that matter.

    1. Matt says:

      Bro the answer to your question is literally in the quote you shared.

  13. Ramon Castellanos says:

    How long will unconstituted BPC last in its original foam package from Nord Sci? Its been in the cabinet for two months now.

    1. I go over this in detail and give suggestions for storage in the article.

  14. Brody says:

    Hi Ben would you think this protocol may would work on repairing a Sports hernina/core muscle injury?

    1. I'm not a doctor and can't make specific recommendations for particular injuries, but I know it's helped many people!

  15. Tj says:

    Hey Ben, I found your protocol on a BPC157 cycle for injury recovery and I had a few questions.

    So I just had ACL reconstructive surgery yesterday and I’m planning on doing a BPC157 and TB500 cycle to help in my recovery coupled along with my rehab work everyday. I read your article on dosages however I didnt see how often you should inject, as in every day or every other day etc.

    Here’s my plan on how to run my cycle: TB500 – 5mg twice a week for the first 3 weeks to front load and then taper down to 2.5mg twice a week for weeks 4-6, then 2.5mg once a week during weeks 7-12. For the BPC157 – 250mcg dosed twice a day totalling 500mcg every day for as long as needed.

    Do you think this is a solid plan for my recovery? I appreciate your time and knowledge you provide on your channels.

    1. Hannah Ryan says:

      Hi, Ben I am from Canada and I am wondering if there is a place you suggest to get BCP-157 from. I have looked up a few online but I am unsure which would be a trust worthy source.

      1. Hi Hannah, do your best to research, read reviews, etc. I unfortunately can't make specific recommendations for this particular product. One thing you could also do is ask the Kion Community. https://Facebook.com/groups/GetKion

      2. T says:

        Canadapeptide.com

  16. mark daniels says:

    Where should I inject for the ankle…I have been doing the top of the foot

  17. Amir says:

    Hey Ben

    How do you use BCP-157 for periodontal disease?

  18. heidi kole says:

    Hi Ben

    Do you know of an alternate PEPTIDE MIXING CALCULATOR to https://realpeptide.com/peptide-calculator – as ReaPeptide seems to no longer exist :(

    I’ve combed the web through multiple search engines & have found nothing that compares, only melanotan & small MG volume calculators

    Thanks Ben!

  19. Arjun says:

    Hey Ben,

    How about taking BPC-157 Intranasal? Wouldn’t it be as effective as IM or SubQ? I am looking at taking BPC-157 primarily for my Tennis Elbow and my mother’s undiagnosed pain Issues on the Ankle. Guess taking a single whiff of Intranasal BPC would be around 10 IU per dose. I say this on the basis of how Intranasal Insulin is used for various Nootropic purposes.

    1. In my opinion, intranasal doesn't seem to be as effective as local administration.

  20. Nick says:

    Would this help cure herniated discs in the lower back?

    1. I would talk to your doctor about this or ask the Kion Community Facebook.com/groups/GetKion

      1. Nick says:

        1/100 doctors will maybe know about this.

  21. Ox says:

    So the peptide calculator at RealPeptides has gone dark. Any other calculators out there that were easy to understand and use as that one?

  22. kam says:

    Hi Ben,

    I’m out here in CO and have come across a place that does peptide therapy. I have gotten extensive blood work done to make sure that I am good to go with the peptides and have been recommended a protocol of BPC-157 and CJC-1295+ipamorelin. The protocol calls for (I believe) 1x/day for the BPC and 2x/day for the other. Total cost is $780/month (I’m about 55-56kg). Am I getting ripped off or is this about right?

    1. It can be pricey, you could check the sources I list for purchasing peptides and compare the prices. I'm sure you'll be paying more, but that's the cost for convenience and having them professionally administered.

    2. Jimmy says:

      Where in CO did you go? I have bad plantar fasciitis ans would rather see a doc than order from China and self inject…

      1. jack says:

        try pep sci for research purposes. i had plantar fasciitis and bpc-157 worked for me. also get a new pair of shoes. the ones you’ve been wearing are helping to exasperate the problem.

  23. julie says:

    Hi Jason,

    Can you tell me the purity of your peptides?

  24. James Fisher says:

    I have heard nothing from Nord Sci after a week’s wait. No answer to my emails. Help

  25. Tommy says:

    Ben,

    Does BPC 157 show up on a military urinalysis?

    1. A guy says:

      No, but that’s assuming it’s actually BPC-157 that you’re using. I’ve heard sometimes you might get some HG in it. Although best chance from what I’ve heard is that if it’s bunch it’s mess of random amino acids. They do test for anabolics only if they “have a reason to suspect use” and I don’t see how it would economically make sense to sell test and BPC157. Also I don’t see how would make test look like BPC157 So unless someone decides to put some white opioid powder in there for some reason, I’d you’re safe.

    2. If they're testing for it, yes. I'm not familiar with what they test for though.

      1. Cameron says:

        Hey Ben,

        Can I inject into my belly fat rather than my knees to help with my knee pain, other areas I have pain?

  26. Domien Ballegeer says:

    what is a good peptide source for buying the peptides. i am using BPC 157 and TB 500 right now for peptides UK.com. I think they are not pure because i am stil suffering from my tennis elbow. I have not done any upperbody exercise in like 6 weeks.

    thanksm

    Domien

    1. All recommendations are in this article.

  27. Laura says:

    Hey Ben I realize this article is old now but I’d like to give the BPC-157 a go on my ankle and shoulder and back, would rather do this than spend more money on PRP if I can. I checked the Nordsci link and the purity now is only 98.4%. I found another that is 99% and will go with that one to be on the safe side, but just thought I would post here. I’m not sure how much it matters, if at all. Thanks so much for posting about this, I hope this helps!

    1. DK says:

      I ordered a bottle on August 2 and received an order summary pending payment approval. I have hear nothing since. I followed up with an email and have not heard back. Could you send me info on where you bought the 99% at [email protected]? Appreciate it.

    2. MK says:

      Hi Laura can you send the 99% source to [email protected] please

      1. BECCA says:

        CAN YOU SEND ME THE 99% SOURCE FOR PEPTIDES AS WELL? THANK YOU

  28. Wes says:

    Been injecting this stuff since March (it’s now mid-July). I’ve had very mixed results, this stuff works for sure, but it will NOT heal you like wolverine.

    I have strained patellofemoral ligaments on the medial side of both knees as well as bad patellar tendonitis. The pain was very debilitating in both knees. I also have a partial tear of my supraspinatus tendon in my left shoulder and I had tendonitis in my right wrist and a forearm splint in my right forearm. I have costochondritis in two places in my chest.

    Injecting BPC definitely helps healing in all these areas, I would go on injection sprees until these areas wouldn’t bother me anymore. The BPC has drastically improved my wrist, and significantly helped my forearm splint. HOWEVER it’s a very different story with my knees and shoulder. I would inject until these injuries almost feel like they are all healed up, then I would go back to the gym, lift heavy again, and I’d be back to where I was prior to the injections, if not worse.

    I also have two degenerated discs in my back, a torn hip labrum, SI joint pain, and chronic minor pain in my left ankle. I have not tried BPC on these yet.

    It seems clear to me that this stuff doesn’t exactly heal you like wolverine, it needs to be used as part of a recovery process that might be shortened by injecting it, however this recovery process still needs to be given plenty of time, if not months.

    1. Aleksandr says:

      It’s not the fault of the BPC that you immediately jump back into strenuous exercise after noticing that your pain is able to be appropriately dealt with. Even if you were NOT using the BPC, you still cannot exercise at an extraordinarily high intensity as if your body has been used to it – like in previous times in your life.

      What you must do is slowly reintroduce those stressors’ intensities over a longer period of time FOLLOWING rehabilitation/injury.

      For example, let us assume your working weights for a squat lift is 315lb/143kg, yes?
      You injure some aspect of your knee that does not even allow a bodyweight squat for a week or two.
      After healing your injury, you immediately go back and squat 315lb/143kg.

      Well, consider that the previous couple of weeks you had ZERO squat stimulus! Your body is simply not going to be used to that level of stress/weight bearing down on your bones/ligaments/tendons: you MUST ease back into that weight range over a reasonable period, such as perhaps 2~ weeks.

      To make matters worse, you yourself are not even sure of whether or not your healing has even been fully completed!
      You state, “I would inject until these injuries almost feel like they are all healed up…”
      Keyword: almost!

      You are unsure if you are 100% healed, and you assume that without appropriate stimulus being done to your body, that it will be used to bearing the same weight as before your break of weeks to months.

      BPC or NOT, this is a faulty way to get reacquainted with training stimulus again. It is no wonder your injuries are still returning to their previous states as if no healing had been done at all!

    2. Mike says:

      It can’t heal weak genes

  29. ken says:

    I have had 2 shoulder and elbow surgeries, with another coming, I have BPC most I read says 2x a day? but I read different doses..what do u suggest? and the very best way to get some help from this. thank u

  30. Joshua J Rodgers says:

    Hey Ben I was trying to checkout on the nordsci link for the b157 but it won’t let me because Illinois isn’t listed in the state selection. I tried contacting that company and still haven’t heard anything.

    1. It's probably due to legal restrictions of certain states.

      1. Joshua J Rodgers says:

        I couldn’t find anything on the legality. I checked other peptide sites and I can purchase the same exact one just not from nord sci

    2. Jason says:

      Contact me we are an HRT company in IL that prescribe BP157 and other peptides. [email protected]

  31. Tim says:

    Ben,

    I had knee surgery two years ago to repair a torn patella tendon. My DR said arthritis is to follow and he was correct. Will BPC have a positive effect on arthritis healing?

    1. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. Subcutaneous around joint there is some evidence yes, but I'd do about 4-6 capsules morning and evening of this first: https://getkion.com/shop/body/kion-flex/ These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  32. Ken says:

    Ben, do know is BPC-157 will aid in neuronal repair?

    1. Haven't seen it used for that. I would ask the Kion Community Facebook.com/groups/GetKion

  33. Jarrod says:

    Hey. I ordered from Nordsci. They were quick at answering my emails. 7+ days since I sent the money (moneygram) and it was collected on their side my order says still “on hold” and they haven’t answered my emails requesting an update about my order. Any advice what to do next?

    1. I reached out to them. Your message went to spam. Sorry for that. They've gotten back to you. Hopefully you got the message.

      1. Jarrod says:

        Thanks Ben, much appreciated. I’m trying to put off surgery for labrum tear/cuff tear/frozen shoulder issue, I’ll post my feedback once I’m done.

      2. William Doss says:

        Ben, I have both TB 500 & BPC. I have a lower back issue which is all my disk are bulging but one. My pain is in the low lower back and left glute. I am also having pain in my right front delt / chest area, I believe to be muscle damage / tightness.

        – Should I use both on one area?

        – Split them for separate areas?

        How do you think I should go about it? Also if you have anything else that might help a guy with bulging disks and gluten pain, be appreciated.

        1. Hi William, I am not a doctor so I can't really give you specific advice about this. I would carefully read all of the recommendations in the article, and this one: https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/article/suppleme… If you need further advice, I would ask a doctor… also, the Kion Community is a great place to find other like-minded individuals who may have experience with what you're inquiring about. Facebook.com/groups/getkion/

          1. FZuck says:

            I would really like to see these fitness communities moved off of facebook and onto some other platform (forum for example). I have since deleted my facebook due to the egregious privacy violations they commit time and time again.

            https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/timeline-facebook-s-privacy-issues-its-responses-n859651
            https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/04/mark-zuckerberg-facebook-user-privacy-issues-my-mistake.html
            https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8459083/facebook-privacy-issues-arise-again-new-data-sharing-report

            Please take this into consideration so those of us that value our privacy can take part in the conversation once again.

  34. Randall says:

    First, I love your podcast and value you opinion/advice. This is great stuff!!!

    My dad beat throat cancer years ago with radiation and chemotherapy. Although his cancer is gone, his epiglottis has major scar tissue from the radiation therapy and is non-functioning. He can’t eat/swallow. Any attempts to swallow results in aspiration. As a result, he is currently obtaining nutrients through a feeding tube in his stomach. He had recent surgery to remove the tissue and WAS working towards additional epiglottis surgery. I am convinced that there is something outside of traditional medicine that can be done.

    What are your thoughts on BPC and/or TB-500? TB sounds promising, but may not be viable based on his history with cancer. This is based on the previous article (How To Build New Blood Vessels, Regenerate Muscle Tissue Fibers, Increase New Cell Growth & More…) suggesting mixed studies showing that TB may contribute to or inhibit the growth of cancer cells.

    Are there additional peptides that you would recommend? I don’t think cutting is a solution. You’ve mentioned peptides, stem cells, cord blood, and the like on previous episodes. Any info/insight regarding the matter would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you for all you do!!!

    1. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. I would say your thinking is correct re: BPC rather than TB. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  35. Ramon Castellanos says:

    Hey Ben, thanks a ton for this man. I bought one of the bottles and will give that a try first and if it works, I will get more. I want to use it for receding gums. Do you suggest injecting into the gum tissue, or swishing it in the mouth? If swishing, how long? thank you!

    1. Haven't seen it used for this yet. Let me know how it works.

      1. GR says:

        Hey Ben, any other E-stores you recommend purchasing BPC 157 from? Nord-Sci seems to have an error on their checkout page and I cannot get my order to go through. I reached out to them and am hoping to hear back, but I would love some other options. Do you know anyone reputable?

        1. I would try again or from a different browser as it's working on my end. Also, code: BGF20 will save you some $$.

  36. Dave says:

    Is there a good and legit european vendor for BPC-157 ?

  37. Neil Paterson says:

    Hi Ben
    Have you changed the dosage recommendation on this article as it now says fill to the 15th tick mark for 250mcg.
    Surely it should be the 8th tick mark or 15IU?

  38. Jerry says:

    I purchased from Nord Sci and the 2 bottles of BPC 157 have the powder stuck to the bottom of the bottle. Is that ok? The vials are not damaged and the packaging was normal.

    1. The powder you see is actually from the process of lyophilisation or cryodessication being as 5mg would be barely visible like grains of salt. It is done to protect the peptide and completely normal.

  39. Corrie says:

    I have been using these peptides in my shoulder for 4 days and I’ve been experiencing nausea and a mild headache after injecting sub-q. I ordered using the link provided in this article. Could this be a healing reaction?

    1. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. It could be your body detoxing or a Herxheimer Reaction. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  40. Jake Basler says:

    Ben,

    When ingesting the BPC orally do you do so while fasted? Simply an empty stomach? With a little food in your stomach? Does it matter?

    Thanks.

    1. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. It shouldn't matter though. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  41. Dan C says:

    Ben,

    Great article! the link to the peptide calculator does not work. can you post a new link?

    1. Jake Basler says:

      Google “peptide calculator” There are plenty of others out there that yield the same results.

  42. Mike G. says:

    Hi Ben,

    I’m having bad wrist inflammation, probably inflamed synovial sheath. Decided to try BPC-157 to get rid of this inflammation. I’m injecting right in the tendon closer to joint 2 times a day about 250-350 mcg, now finishing 3rd bottle and don’t see any improvement, just more stiffness when moving my thumb.

    Do you familiar with any positive results for curing the wrist inflammation with BPC-157?

    Thanks!

    1. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. I would say anything sub-q injection-wise is going to majorly lower inflammation etc. Have you considered stacking Thymosin Beta alongside this? It definitely is a several month healing process but i’ve heard and witnessed recovery or bettering of any injury in question. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

      1. Albert says:

        I also have a wrist injury from playing piano. I think my Ulnar nerve is being pinched in my neck, and my radial is being pinched near my collar bone.

        I don’t know the exact place of damage, although I feel it in my hands / amrs / wrists, moreso on the left.

        Would taking this orally help in this case? I prefer not to inject.

        1. It could possibly, I would reread the part about it acting systemically.

        2. Patrick Choi says:

          how did it go bro? I have a pinched nerve thinking of trying it as well

  43. TR says:

    Hi Ben

    Do you think this would help my peyronies if I inject my willy with it? Not kidding…

    1. Not sure man, I haven't seen any studies on that, and I'm not a doctor so can't really give medical advice. I would consider posting to something like the Kion Community to see if anyone has tried this. It's a free online community of like-minded people who both have advice and are seeking advice. Facebook.com/groups/getkion/ Also, check out my article on GAINSWave, which is something that's actually been shown to help with peyronies: https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/article/biohacki… Hope this helps!

  44. Jake Basler says:

    How long does a bottle of an opened bottle of Bacteriostatic water keep? Once i’ve opened it do I need to use it to reconstitute my peptides immediately, or can it remain “good” as long as its refrigerated. Thanks.

    1. Steve says:

      He mentions this:

      Before and after reconstitution, keep your BPC-157 away from UV rays, sunlight and heat. It will remain stable at room temperature for up to ten weeks, but for best storage and results, you should store in your refrigerator, in which case it will stay stable for up to six months. It will stay stable in a freezer for up to two years.

      1. Jake Basler says:

        I said Bacteriostatic water. Not BPC.

  45. Brian Rosenthal says:

    Hey Ben,

    Any chance you can recommend a different source? I’ve tried to order off of NordSci and my order won’t go through. I’ve emailed them a few times and no reply.

    Best,

    Brian

    1. A Thrasher says:

      Hi, same result here. I placed an order on 4/20 and received an email confirmation but then nothing. They didn’t charge my card or anything. I emailed them a couple of times with no response. I then tried to place another order and I’m now getting a message that says they’re unable to place the order but with no explanation. I’m a little disappointed bc I also placed an order from Medlab and received it without any issues. If anyone has any suggestions that would be wonderful. Thanks.

    2. Graham Loft says:

      I just placed an order last night on nordsci, Ben20 code didn’t work but they gave me 25% off for paying via cash app. They have been very communicative and are shipping today . Try again!

      1. A Thrasher says:

        Thanks Graham, I replaced my order without any issues. Just received shipment today.

    3. Mike says:

      King Peptides

  46. Chris says:

    Do you have to inject it into a specific joint, or can you just inject it into the glute muscles (as I take B12 shots) to get it absorbed into the system? I have muscle pain all over due to Lyme disease.

    1. BPC-157 acts systemically. This means that whether you inject it subcutaneously – an easier and more-pain free under-the-skin method that you should do as close to the area of pain as possible… ….or you inject it intramuscularly – the more painful and teeth-gritting version of essentially “stabbing” the needle into the muscle as close to the injury as possible… …or you simply spray it into your mouth orally… …the BPC-157 going to render some amount of benefit in whichever part of your body needs healing.

      1. Pierre says:

        So no matter how you inject it, the results will remain the same?

      2. Pierre says:

        So no matter how you inject it, the results will remain the same? I have chips in my elbow and I am trying to avoid surgery. My coach recommended BPC-157 and I am trying to figure out if oral injection will heal the elbow.

        1.  I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. It will still be effective, maybe just not as effective. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

    2. Jordan says:

      Check out Dr Sponaugle in Tampa Florida. He is the leading Lyme doctor anywhere. I’ve been to his clinic and personally witnessed huge changes for others with Lyme. It is expensive, but worth it.

    3. Marc Paschover says:

      Tim Ferriss mentioned that he was struggling with Lyme’s disease for a long time, and the only thing that really helped him was going on a strict ketogenic diet.

  47. Bruce says:

    Hey Ben,

    I sprained my ankle about 10 weeks ago, rolling it in a basketball game. MRI/X-ray confirmed that I have partially torn ligaments on the outside of the foot, and a bad bone bruise/smashed blood vessels on the inside of the foot. It’s still pretty fat and inflamed 10 weeks later which is not allowing me to progress in my rehab. The inside of the foot with the bone bruise is causing the problems with range of motion. I’m wondering if BPC-157 or TB-500 (or both, but preferably 157) would have any ability to help any of the symptoms I described?

    Thanks

    Bruce

    1. Hi Bruce. Either one may effective in speeding your recovery. The main functionality of TB500 hinges on the ability to up-regulate cell building proteins such as actin, which is a protein that forms (together with myosin) the contractile filaments of muscle cells, and is also involved in motion and metabolism in many other types of cells. Upregulation of actin allows TB500 to promote healing, cell growth, cell migration and cell proliferation. This not only helps build new blood vessel pathways but also upregulates the type of “good” inflammation that is directly correlated with faster wound healing. TB-500 is most often used for acute injuries or wounds that would heal slow (when you need them to heal fast), or for more chronic injuries where the healing doesn’t seem to be happening.

      BPC-157 has an extremely high level of biological healing activity just about anywhere you put it. It is useful for promoting tendon and ligament healing by tendon outgrowth, cell survival, and cell migration and it may counter the damaging effects of NSAIDs like ibuprofen or advil on the gut lining which you may be using as part of your pain management protocol.

      Both are indicated for sprains and tears. TB is more likely to address the inflammation while BPC can stimulate biological healing activity. As always, I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever. Proceed at your own risk. Hope this helps!

    2. Jeremy says:

      Bruce,

      I have nearly the exact same ankle injury as you. I’ve been dealing with mine for about 12 weeks now, and it’s very slow to progress. I’m just getting started with BPC in an attempt to help heal it. I know you posted about 3 months ago, how’s your ankle doing now?

  48. Eric says:

    I have been injecting into my forearm, both intramuscular and subcutaneous on other days, but I have noticed no improvement in the last 6 days since I started, and it in fact makes my muscles more right after injecting.

    Is this normal?

    I have been having issues with tight forearm muscles (tennis elbow muscles) and it isn’t getting any better.

    I don’t know if it is just because of the peptide, my muscles are get tight immediately after applying voltaren anti inflammatory gel. Even stretching and heat doesn’t help my tight muscles.

    1. Eric says:

      I meant to type that injecting into my arm makes my muscles more “tight”. Is that normal? My main lifting muscle got extremely tight and only ultrasounding it helped relieve the tension.

    2. Shaun says:

      I ordered from nord-sci.com on the 25th of April.

      I paid for express shipping and used my bank account information to get an additional discount as advertised on their website.

      I have emailed several times with no response. I have yet to receive a response or a tracking number. I’m really dissapointed as I am a big follower of this site and went with the recommendations I saw here. I hope the company sees this and makes it right.

      Shaun

  49. Ash Tabashta says:

    Hi Ben,

    Second day injecting BPC -157 subcutaneously in my posterior shoulder (for cuff issues). 250mcg, once in the morning, once in the evening. Shortly after my first dose this morning I experienced severe dizziness that has not subsided (it has been 6 hours). Is this something that you have experienced or heard of? Thanks

    1. Andrew says:

      Are you still alive?

      1. Ash Tabashta says:

        Ha. Yes. Dizziness went away by the next morning. Was likely related to something else.

  50. Ash Tabashta says:

    You mentioned that you performed subcutaneous injections “in” your elbows, without specifying precisely where you injected them. Did you ever consider intracapsular injections for greater specificity? Has any of the medical literature shown greater effectiveness when bpc 157 was injected directly into the joint as opposed to intramuscularly or subcutaneously? Would you ever consider injecting bpc 157 directly into one of your joints?

  51. Kenny Hyatt says:

    Thanks for this post Ben. I have been treating a case of mild platters fasciitis (on myself) with BPC 157, and in a better of 2 weeks, it has resolved, and I am back to running pain free. I did subcutaneous injections of 250 mcg 2x a day, just in front of the heel pad on my effected foot. Worked like a charm.

    1. Eric says:

      Hey, I also have foot arch pain, is that what you had? I have had shockwave therapy, but it only lasts so long.
      Did you inject on the bottom of your foot? I might give it a shot too to relieve my chronic condition.

      1. Kenny Hyatt says:

        No, I had planters fasciitis. Injected just in front of my heel pad, on the Botton of the affected foot.

  52. Jared says:

    Hey Ben, followed all the directions in the article, but while putting 1 bottle of reconstituted bpc-157 in my fridge something moved and accidentally knocked the bottle over and knocked a bottle of the powder form off the shelf to a lower shelf about a foot down, do you think any damage was done? Don’t want to waste my time if I’ve ruined it, thanks

    1. Eric says:

      I would also like to know about the powder fragility. I ordered some from British Columbia and I am worried about it bumping around during the transport.

  53. Eric says:

    If it is ingested orally, would it have any effect on limb ligaments at all?

    I have two dogs with leg ligament injuries, and not having to inject them would definitely be the only option. I am just curious if the ingestion would have enough of an effect to help limbs at all.

    1. I am not a doctor (or veterinarian) and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. It acts systemically so whether you inject it subcutaneously, inject it intramuscularly or you simply spray it into your mouth orally the BPC-157 going to render some amount of benefit in whichever part of the body needs healing. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

    2. Jo says:

      Our holistic vet prescribed it to our nearly 15 year old large breed dog as a last ditch effort to heal her hip injury. We just finished two cycles of four weeks on two weeks off and she is back to at least 100%. She went from walking on three legs to sprinting at the beach. It was an absolute miracle for us; we would have had to put her to sleep without it.

      1. Mariana says:

        Jo, do you mind sharing which vet do you go to? My dog is very sick with Inflammatory Bowel Disease and I’m desperately trying to find a vet who knows about using BPC-157, even if they are in a different state. I would love to know who your vet is so that I can at least reach out for some information. Hoping you’ll see this, your help is appreciated!

    3. Jo says:

      I forgot to say that we administered it orally. I don’t know whether oral vs. injection reduces the efficacy, but we certainly got great results with oral administration.

  54. Alex says:

    I’m not trying to be a troll or anything, but I want to say: BE CAREFUL.

    I purchased 1 vial of BPC and 3 vials of TB500 for my patient from Nord Sci. After using for some time, the side effects seemed to be what sounds like brain inflammation. Shortness of breath, confusion, slight change in personality, head pressure, etc..

    Does his knee and wrist feel better after using it for a week and a half? YES. So perhaps it did work on the joint/ligament issues. He did also say he’s had similar reactions to prescribed meds that weren’t supposed to have side effects.

    However, be very careful with what you put in your body. I’m not saying Nord Sci did anything wrong, it very well could have been my patient’s immune response to a foreign substance. But watch closely and pay attention to YOUR reaction.

    There’s no guarantee these peptide companies are legit at the end of the day.

    1. Alan B'Stard says:

      Any protein or peptide can induce immune response.

      But Nord-Sci uses what looks like a fake analysis report to back their BPC-157, so they look quite dubious.

      http://www.nord-sci.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/0…
      compare to:
      http://www.pharmagrade-steroids.com/photo/pharmag… http://docdroid.net/thumbnail/w8Q23Ju/1500,1500/b… http://realpeptide.com/wp-content/uploads/reports…

    2. John says:

      So far nord-sci not looking legit. I placed an order and received confirmation a month ago, still no product, no update, and no response to my four email inquiries. Anyone have a better source for bpc157?

      1. Ash Tabashta says:

        Ordered from them a few days ago and just received my BPC. Try the suggested method of payment via direct bank account withdrawal or Zelle.

      2. Ash Tabashta says:

        Have you received your order yet? Curious if I should place another order. Another fellow seems to have had the same experience as you.

      3. Brittany Snell says:

        I had the same issue. I cannot get through to anyone and have not got my product.

        1. Your order was paid for and completed? I'll look into it.

  55. Siveshen says:

    Hi Ben just wanted to say thanks for introducing me to bpc. Its completely healed my shoulder injury and is healing my golfers elbow and torn knee ligaments.

    1. Andrew says:

      Did you inject into your shoulder muscle? I’m having issues as well.

      1. Siveshen says:

        Hi yes used a half inch 27 gauge needle. For the shoulder you’ll want to put the entire needle into the shoulder muscle. And make sure not to flex or tense the muscle.

  56. Andrew says:

    Hi Ben, I need to try this for nagging tendinitis in my rotator cuff/ tennis elbow. Do you still recommend nord-sci as your go to place to purchase the peptide? Seems to be a ton of drama when trying to find a reputable place to purchase from.

    Also, it doesn’t look like medlabgear.com has the other items in stock (syringes, bacteriostatic water or alcohol swabs) anymore. Do you have another site you recommend purchasing these items?

    Really hoping to get some relief as cortisone shots don’t seem to be a permanent solution.

    Thank you!

    Andrew

    1. Alan B'Stard says:

      The “BPC-157 analysis report” that Nord-sci has posted for their BPC-157 on their webpage:
      http://nord-sci.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/BP…

      is a popular fake report used by many:
      http://pharmagrade-steroids.com/photo/pharmagrade… http://realpeptide.com/wp-content/uploads/reports… http://docdroid.net/w8Q23Ju/bpc157-hplc.doc

      Only one of them can be real.

      And even the real one would not be a trustworthy 3rd-party test.

      1. Mark says:

        Alan – I have been fighting an Achilles tendon (insertion point) issue for years (two rounds of PT and a surgeon consult). The only thing that gave any relief was dry needling and using guasha tools to break up the scar tissue, adhesions and VooDoo flossing my calves to loosen my calves.

        I bought a vile of BPC-157 from NordSci and after 4 days of 250 mg injections (2x day) in my calf I have seen vast improvement.

        Placebo effect or real?

        If NordSci is not legit where would you recommend buying from?

  57. Alan B'Stard says:

    The BPC-157 analysis report that Nord-sci has posted on their webpage,
    http://nord-sci.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/BP…

    is a popular BPC-157 analysis report that others also use – all but one must be fake:
    http://pharmagrade-steroids.com/photo/pharmagrade… http://realpeptide.com/wp-content/uploads/reports… http://docdroid.net/w8Q23Ju/bpc157-hplc.doc

    And even the real one would not be a 3rd-party test

  58. Mike Haynes says:

    Hi Ben.

    Very much enjoyed the article, helped answer many questions relating to BPC 157. My only question is can BPC 157 be effectively delivered transdermally in a patch?

    Best and thank you.

    1. Seth Spaner says:

      Just seconding this question, as I just purchased 90 1mg transdermal patches from AgeForce. 4 of them are being sent out for testing.

      1. Not effectively based on the research that I have seen, but I have not tried the patches myself.

      2. Vic says:

        Any results from the Patch tests?

  59. retrograde says:

    Hi Ben,

    I’m all snapped up.

    -Left wrist sprain that’s SLOWLY getting better
    -Weak shoulders that are prone to tearing
    -Bad knees (definitely tore something in my right knee)
    -Bad right ankle

    I’m in my early 30s. If you’re me, how would you schedule doses to help with these multiple issues?

  60. Andrew says:

    Ben, have there been any studies on using this compound to treat neuropathy, in the legs precisely?

  61. Peter says:

    Hi Ben, I think I want to wait on the bpc157 until there’s more “reliability” , but could you recommend where I could go to get basic

    beginner stem-cell treatment for some nagging inflammation(shoulders mainly) and anti-aging ? (healthy 50 y.o. male, heart disease in family) Thanks Ben !!

    1. Clint says:

      That systemic and shoulder stem cell therapy is only legal in Panama.

      1. ron says:

        i did 2cc of ambiotic (no sure of spelling) stem cell, i did the stem cell instead of total knee replacement.it was done by the CORE inst in SUPRISE AZ. it was $1500.00 per cc, and ins. doesn’t cover it What i can say is it worked, unbelievable, after 1 week, there was absolutely ZERO pain. i also had a torn rotator cuff, the DR. SAID IT MAY NOT WORK,because of area of damage, i had them again do the 2cc in the shoulder, first 1 day after the shot, it felt like someone ripped my arm off my body, and the DR for warned of the potential pain, results were ZERO,i also earlier had a total right knee replacement, which caused my right hip to go into pain, the DR. recomended PRP (protein rich plasma), a lower priced alternative, it comes from your own blood, they injected the PRP in my hip and in 2 days no pain, another note the core inst dr. used ultra sound to locate were to put the stem cell injections

    2. Contact the US Stem Cell Clinic for a consult, yes. Here's the link: http://usstemcellclinic.com/greenfield/

      1. Sean says:

        Hi Ben, I really appreciate all your advice in advance, just as I do this website as well.

        One question for you. I know you are not a Dr but would you recommend I try using this for herniated disc pain? I’ve tried dozens & dozens of different therapies throughout the years with little to no beneficial results which is leads me to wondering if I should try BCP.

        Also if you do recommend using this for my condition how would you say I apply it, orally or injection?

        Thanks again,

        Sean

        1. Sorry not a doctor so can't give medical advice. I will say that I know it has helped many people whether injected or taken orally. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  62. PrimalPreacher says:

    Hi Ben. I’m just wondering why you’ve changed your source from peptides warehouse to NorSci? I had ordered through peptides warehouse in the past and like their product but noticed as of recently there’s been a dramatic drop in their prices and their products are always on sale for “50% “off which makes me wonder about the legitimacy of their product.

    Thanks in advance.

    1. Alex says:

      Yeah, I think the most difficult part of all these BPC 157/TB 500/etc/etc peptides is quality sourcing. There’s apparently a lot of snake oil out there. I did see that Peptide Warehouse has gone down in quality (read this across various forums). I can’t find much info on NordSci, which scares me a little.

      I’d also like to know, how did you decide on NordSci out of the hundreds of other peptide sites?

      Thanks!

      1. Transparent Tom says:

        I realized he even changed the article to ” I got my BPC157 from norsci. I read this article many time when it first came out and even used the link to peptides warehouse from this page. So either Mr. Greenfield isn’t being transparent or he’s a sellout like every other person in the fitness industry. We appreciate that you make money from this kind of stuff Ben but your long time fans deserve an explanation.

    2. My recommendations are based on my most up to date experiences. I've moved away from the previous recommendation when there was an ownership change and I did not have experience with their new management. As such, I could not continue to recommend them to our community. I have had nothing but positive experiences with the folks at NordSci and continue to feel comfortable recommending them.

      1. primal preacher says:

        No discount code Ben?

      2. Beatrice says:

        I was wondering the same thing regarding other manufacturers. There are a few other companies that also seem to be at the top of the credibility list – I.e. Tailor Made, RegeneRx. I work at a precision medicine clinic that has been heavily exploring and researching the use of peptides as a means of optimizing health outcomes. Based on scientific findings and clinical trials, we have recently found the most success with Tailor Made products (BPC, CJC, Ipamorelin, PT141, TB4, etc.). Id love to know your experience.

        Have you tried any of these peptides from any of the other credible companies?

        If so, what in particular makes you choose one over the other?

    3. MGR says:

      I’d like to know as well. I have used peptide warehouse for other things and believe it to be a good resource, but would like to know if others have had good experiences too.

  63. Mike says:

    Hello Ben,

    I do two different fight systems, one mma based and the other is an Israeli fight system. They are both demanding physically, at times my ankles get a bit messed up and knees can get messed up. I am assuming for the knees I can go into the glut or quad, what about the ankle? I don’t have a lot to pinch in my calve to go under the skin. If your ankles were bothering you due to something physical you were doing, where would you do it? Any help would be appreciated.

    Mike

    1. Check out the section "How To Inject BPC-157 Or Take BPC-157 Orally". There it mentions how BPC-157 acts systemically.

  64. Siveshen says:

    Hi Ben I have just finished one bottle of Bpc 157 but im not sure where to inject for golfers elbow please help i know the article says come in at an angle but is that at the Brachioradialis or above the elbow?

    1. Hey man, I'm not a doctor and can't really give out advice to someone for something like this. I'd re-read the section "How To Inject BPC-157 Or Take BPC-157 Orally". There it mentions how BPC-157 acts systemically.

  65. Siveshen says:

    If I inject 2ml water into the bpc 157 vial would that be correct or too little?

  66. Siveshen says:

    Hi Ben if 15th tick mark is 250mcg which tick would be 500mcg?

    1. All of the instructions are listed above. If you're confused I would have someone more experienced help you with this.

  67. Justin says:

    Is injecting in the butt the easiest and safest area? I have lower back issues so I was thinking that’s where I’d do it.

  68. Greg says:

    Hi Ben! How important is the bac water in all of this? I’m gonna take BPC-157 orally to try and treat 15 years of bad IBS/IBD.

    Thanks

    1. It's definitely important for injection. I would order from MedLabGear. BAC water isn't necessary for taking orally.

      1. Greg says:

        I see. I’m only going to use it orally since I’m targeting the gut. Could I just use regular water then or should it at least be distilled or something?

        1. Distilled would be fine.

    2. Stefanie says:

      I want to take this orally, too. How would I do it without a syringe to dose it into my mouth?

      1. Instructions for oral use are in the article.

        1. Stefanie says:

          Right. It says to spray it into the mouth, but how do I do this? There is not a sprayer to use.

          1. You're going to have to get a syringe if you don't have one.

          2. Stefanie says:

            Would regular tap water be ok?

  69. Nelly says:

    Hi Ben, thanks for the info, I have been injured and out of the gym for 6 months due to tennis elbow and ligament inflammation in the back of my right knee, Ive been going to a medical/ sports therapists once a week for about 3 weeks, its been helping but I feel like its been too long of a recovery. I want to try BPC on my elbow/ upper forearm area and behind my knee,im just unaware and have little to no knowledge on how and where exactly is the pinpoint on where to insert bpc in. Any information or advice will surely be helpful. Thanks to who ever responds.

    1. Nelly, I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. The article outlines the aforementioned. You can either go direct to the site or do a simple sub-q injection elsewhere around the navel.

  70. Ken says:

    Ben if you injured your neck soft tissue stuff would you give this a whirl?

    1. I'm not a doctor, so this is not to be construed as medical advice, but if it were me I would give it a shot. I always recommend talking to your doctor about any medical conditions you may have though.

  71. lindy drope says:

    After you stop taking this is there any withdrawals or pain ?

    What are the side effects ?

    Am about to take for my wrist and ankle ?

    1.  I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. But no, I am not aware of any.

  72. Wade says:

    Hi Ben,

    I have shoulder tendon issues that PT has been totally worthless in healing. I just started CJC 1295 and would like to add BPC 157 for the shoulders. My question is I don’t mind the subcutaneous in the stomach but putting the BPC in the shoulder worries me because I don’t know what I might hit (and perhaps a little sissy issue :). Is it that big of a difference where you inject? What would you recomend? I really need to get these shoulders healed, they are holding me back on a lot of things.

    1. Glenn says:

      Use a peg to pinch the skin up so there’s no danger of mainlining. Swab the area and inject as you would into your belly fat.

      1. ron says:

        i have the same problem, there is no skin to pinch by the top of my shoulder….what is a peg? where would i find that

        1. Aimee R says:

          I think a peg is “Brit-speak” for a clothespin.

  73. Adam says:

    Hi Ben

    I live in Australia and was recently ran into by a shark in shallow waters leaving me with deep puncture marks to my foot and lower leg and extreme bruseing to my ankle. My good friend is freestyle mx legend Robbie Maddison and he is part owner of of corvinmier and gave me a weeks worth of bpc157 and all I can say is this stuff is truly amazing. It healed my foot and leg in 5 days the doctors told me I would be off my feet for at least 2weeks. The fact this is not being sold in chemists, prescribed by doctors and used in hospitals world wide is absolutely because big pharmaceutical cant make money of it. These companies do not care about the health of people they care about profits to share holders. I would recommend this to anyone with basically any injuries. Absolutely amazing product!!!

    Thanks

    Adam

    1. Anirban says:

      Hello, as far as I know bpc 157 and similar peptides are legal in Australia. So, could you please provide some info regarding the doctor recommended dose of bpc 157 for partial supraspinatus tear and strains?

      1. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever. But if you scroll down in the article you will eventually find "How Much BPC-157 To Take". That is the recommended dose.

  74. Soyona says:

    Hi Ben,

    This is truly fascinating. I appreciate your research and presentation of the science behind this. This information should be more widely available to the public and medical professionals. As a medical doctor, I’m wondering if you know any legal implications for recommending this to patients? There are a few pharmacies that make certain peptides available, like Tailor Made in KY (http://tailormadecompounding.com/). I’ve inquired if they carry BPC 157.

    Thanks so much for your help and inspiration!

    1. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. I am not aware of any limitations for doctors to recommend, although they can't prescribe. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

      1. Steve says:

        Ben,

        Heard you on JRE and have been devouring your site since. Love it.

        I have faulty joints on the right side (knee, ebow, shoulder) and some gut issues from years of NSAIDs. The knee is part of a Marine injury that led to knee and back surgery (L4/L5). The elbow is from a RWI incident years ago ( racquetballing while intoxcated) and the shoulder seems labrum related and is chronic.

        Understanding you are not a doctor and these are for research purposes only (you are fully disclaimed), I am considering a thing called Prohealix. Are you familiar with this lab and this ratio? And does this sound like a proper hupothetical protocal for researching on animals?

        Here is the manufacturer’s website. They claim 99% but everybody does.
        https://tb-500.com/tb500-vs-bpc157

  75. Siveshen says:

    Hi Ben so if I’m reading correctly I should get 20 uses from one 5ml of bcp 157.

    1. At 250mcg, that is 4 usages per 1 mg. So, yes.

      1. Siveshen says:

        Thanks a lot I also wanted to know why you only fill the vial up 3 quarter and not fully?

        Thanks again

        1. Beause that's the recommended amount, and any more would make it too diluted.

      2. Adam says:

        Hi Ben, I think your math is off regarding the syringe calculation. In your recommendation in the article, you suggest a .2ml dose to equal 250mcg. According to the calculation site you linked, this would only yield a 30mcg dose. A 250 mcg dose would be 1.66ml, or 1 full syringe plus a 2/3 full syringe. Can you confirm the dosage you suggest? Thanks!

      3. Adam says:

        Oops! I was off. I thought the entire 30ml was being mixed to reconstitute but it is only 3ml being used. My bad! Thanks and disregard!

  76. John says:

    Hi Ben,

    While I appreciate you are not a doctor/medical professional, what would you opinion be on using BPC-157 post surgery?

    I’m due surgery on my shoulder for a labral tear and damaged cartilage on the 19th. Thinking it may help aid recover :) Thanks.

    1. Jamie says:

      Hi Ben-

      Thank you for this information. I have severe tendonopathy and neuropathy in hands, feet, ankles and wrists from Levaquin given for lung infection 4 years ago. Have been forced to stop playing musical instruments, have had 4 foot surgeries in two years for toes that pulled up so high from tendons, they all crossed and broke each other. I would be using the BPC-157 as a cellular help as opposed to focusing on one part of the body. Understanding you are not here to diagnose or give medical advice, do you feel taking it orally can be effective?

      Thanks so much for your informative, generous spirit!

      All the best, Jamie

      1. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever. No, it is not orally effective prepared in this manner. They are prepared in lyophilized form therefore injection is the preferred method. However, It would still act on a cellular manner and potentially be effective in bettering your situation as it doesnt only act on a site specific basis. There is in fact reduced inflammation at the local administration site, however, it still works on a cellular level just as effectively. Meaning, say you’re trying to heal a nagging shoulder injury – it is just as effective utilizing the protocol with naval located injections (in your love handle regions) where most people go for. Hope this helps you!

        1. Raymond Testa says:

          Ben, when you treated your elbow, did you only use 250mcg of BPC-157 once daily? Or did you dose 2x a day? It seems like once but you’ve mentioned people having success with 250 mcg 2x a day so I was curious what you did exactly. Thanks

          1. Once daily for two weeks.

      2. Kimberly Harper says:

        Hi Jamie

        I’m in the same boat as you with flouroquinolone poisoning.. I’ve been using both the tb500 and bpc157, rotating the shot location. i feel this is something that i will have to use for abt 6 mos off and on to feel 100%. I have found that when I take a break the joints start to hurt again. This is mostly due to the mitochondrial damage. we have less mitochondria in our tendons ligaments and joints so when the damaged mitochondria replicate its replicating damaged mitochondria. someone else in the flouroquinolone toxicity group also suggested epitalon peptide info addition to these.

        1. bennie wijsman says:

          hello kimberly

          why don’t you share this with the f.t. group on facebook?
          you can also give your source, witch is most important.

  77. Xanimander says:

    There’s some holes in this post. Aside form the mysteriously changing sources, how do you “accidentally” inject 2500 instead of 250? You’d have had to shoot more than a full needle-full?

    1. Sam says:

      Probably reconstituted with like 2ml then did the math for 20ml and injected 1ml of fluid or something similar. It happens.

  78. Neil Clements says:

    Thanks for the article Ben. I have multiple injuries that I would like to treat. Would you suggest one at a time or treat all 4 at the same time?

    1. Eric says:

      In the same boat. Would like to hear Ben’s thoughts about this too.

    2. Yuss says:

      He said that not only the location site benefits, but also everywhere else that needs healing. I’d just focus on one at a time, and then focus on another area only if still needed once I’m done with the 1st one and so on.

  79. jordan says:

    wouldn’t it be the 8th tick mark, not the 15th? thats what the peptide calculator said. it said 15iu’s, but it listed that as the 8th tick mark?

    1. Ben Michaels says:

      Is Jordan correct?

    2. Definitely use the peptide calculator that I referred to in the blog post to check your map.

    3. Todd Jones says:

      Syringe has 100 units in it

      You are shooting 3 syringes Worth of BAC into it

      So the 5gram bottle has 300 units in it

      5 ÷ 300= 0.016

      0.016 * 15(tic marks)= .25 or 250mcg

      1. Todd Jones says:

        Sorry 0.016666

        1. Gari says:

          Todd, would you spell it out for me, please?

          Ben keeps referring people to the article and…

          Every time I think I’ve got it, it just slips away!

          I have a 5mg unconstituted bottle of BPC & the same for TB500.

          I have 3ml of BCW

          I have .3mL diabetic needle

          And a 3ml syringe & needle

          Is “stick” mark the numbers on the syringes?

          I want to dose for 165pounds. How many doses do i get of each?

          I just need help working it out. My torn ankle ligaments thank you!

          Gari

      2. Pedman says:

        Your confusion here is that you are equating a unit to equal a tic mark when actually there are approximately 2 units PER tick mark. So this would be 15 UNITS, or 8 tic marks.

        So while your math is correct, it would be:

        5 (mg) / 300 (units) = 0.0166667

        0.0166667 * 15 (units) = .25mg or 250mcg

        15 units = 8th tic mark

        Or you can look at it this way.

        1 reconstituted vial is 5,000 mcg

        1 ml/cc of that is 1,666 mcg

        250mcg / 1,666 mcg = 0.15 (units)

  80. Shane says:

    Hi ben, I’ve recently injured my MCL. I’ve done this a few years back also and never required surgery just a long process of no weight on the leg for 6 weeks then rehab.

    Would BCP speed this process up? By potentially injecting straight into the ligament/area and would I follow the doses you’ve mentioned above. I’m from the uk too so any local sources would be helpful.

    Much appreciated

    1. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever. For subcutaneous injection there is some evidence that it may help.

    2. Gabriel Jackson says:

      Did it work on you ?

      1. Yes, but as I've stated before it depends on the extent of your injuries.

  81. HL says:

    Hi Ben,

    I’d like to know if the healing from bpc 157 is permanent? For example you said your gut felt better on bpc but after that did it go back to how it used to be? How are your old injuries? Are they still healed? Thanks!

    1. This is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. Yes it CAN permanently heal and strengthen weak joints, connective tissues, muscles and gut, but it depends on the extent of your injuries. It completely healed mine. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever as I am not a doctor.

  82. Mela Love says:

    Ben answered this above: Yes….but I suspect you would need to have mechanisms in place to cause cancer, such as inflammation, mitochondrial dysfunction, rampant blood sugar, etc.

  83. Jeff says:

    Hey Ben,

    I am about to have tricep tendon reattachment surgery. Would you suggest taking hgh and also injecting bpc 157 into the injured area? Do they work well together?

  84. Todd says:

    Is the www.nord-sci.com still open for business? Wasn’t sure when this article was posted.

    1. Yes… Use coupon code BEN20 for 20% off Epithalon,GHK-CU, Thymalin, BPC-157 and Thymosin Beta-4 (TB-500)

      1. Matt says:

        That discount code you provided does not seem to work anymore (as of 12/16/17). Do you have any further suggestions?

          1. John says:

            NordSci has BPC-157 out of stock. Can you recommend another source?

            You reference medlabgear

            Did their peptides work too?

  85. Michael says:

    How often would you recommend for an intra-articular injection? Would it be less frequent since the peptide mostly stays inside the joint capsule?

    1. I don't really recommend an intraarticular, but subcutaneous is typically once every 2-3 days.

  86. Tanya Zivin says:

    If I wanted to take BPC-157 orally or via nasal spray, do I still reconstitute with bacteriostatic water?

    1. Orally, yes. I haven't seen any clinical evidence re: taking it via nasal spray though.

  87. Ian says:

    Hi, I have Metatarsalgia in the joint of second toe on foot, that won’t go away.

    I ordered TB500. Should I inject into that joint?

    Any other recommendations?

    1.  I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever. I would do as close to the area of pain as possible. Check out these two podcasts re: metatarsalgia: https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/transcripts/epis… https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/podcast/nutritio…

  88. Gef says:

    I’m a climber and have recurrent tendon injuries. My main current one is the tendon in my ring finger. After finding this site, I’ve ordered all the stuff I need and have started injecting today. Fingers crossed I see a speedy recovery. I’ll report back with progress.

    1. Ivan says:

      Hi Gef, any updates? Thanks

  89. Jeff says:

    On Oct 9th I had a tendon reattached to my right arm. I was researching methods or supplements to aid in the healing and I found this site. I followed the instructions to a t. I have been administrating 8 units twice a day for the most part. Sometimes I only get 1 injection in. This procedure takes 3-6 mths to fully heal. In less that 3 weeks post op I have regained full movement of my right arm. I am able to curl 5lbs with no pain (big accomplishment I know right lol). This peptide has been a miracle. Only thing now I’m worried about is the doc releasing back to work prior to 3 mths lol. I have been enjoying my time off but I would also like to get back into the gym. Thanks for having this page and educating the public. Truly is an amazing supplement.

    1. Michael says:

      Where did you get your BPC-157 been looking for a company but they all are located over seas.

      1. Links are in the article above!

  90. Kevin says:

    Is the handling problem after it is mixed with the water, or even when it is in original form. You can control it’s handling after you get it to your door, but not before that. And having it shipped reminds me of baggage handlers at the airport.

    1. Shog says:

      I do not see how fragile handling of this product is going to make much of a difference since when shot through a fine gauge insulin needle would cause such a ripping Vortex effect on the liquid even if you do it slowly.

  91. Lie says:

    Your bottles are not from Nord-Sci. They are from PeptidesWarehouse. Why did you edit where you say you got them from??

    1. thetruth says:

      You need to remember this guy is selling stuff to make money and promotes stuff to make money. His info on the few things I read is good but alot of the stuff he recommends is stuff he sells or a company he is affiliated with. No disrespect to Ben for doing it cause that is how he makes a living I guess but always research the products yourself.

  92. Alex says:

    Hi Ben, why have you edited the article to change your source for bpc THREE times? First it was blue sky peptides, then peptide warehouse, and now Nord Sci? Seems very fishy.

    1. Because they are a fringe supplement and many companies get repeatedly "shut down" and then reopen under a new URL!

    2. Len Moskovits says:

      Nord-Sci doesn’t return emails, and acts like they are out of business…Regardless, super unprofessional. I’m concerned that I gave them my financial information for the purchase I made that was never shipped.

      1. Harry says:

        Nordsci ripped me off too. Nice company to promote, Ben. I can’t even believe you associate with this company. All your listeners are being scammed and you don’t care.

        1. Kimberly says:

          they messed up my order, but they gave me 1 extra bottle to make it right. so I have no complaints about them

        2. Tim O'Connor says:

          They just ignored me

      2. thetruth says:

        they (nord Sci) are way overpriced for their peptides you can get real bpc 157 for 15 a vial from some good sources just have to look.

        1. Harry says:

          They’re definitely overpriced when you pay for something and they don’t ship it and ignore your emails. I’ve sent at least five over the last 8 days with absolutely no response. They took my money and are just ignoring me. I really got scammed. So beware, people. It may not be worth it to buy anything Ben says and to just do you’re own research. There’s at least 5 other companies I know with good reputations. I wanted to try them because I believed Ben had a great company to do business with. Man, was I wrong.

        2. Michael says:

          What is a good source? Can you share yours?

        3. Tim O'Connor says:

          I’d love to find out where!

      3. joshua says:

        I have had the same thing happen!!!!

  93. Swim says:

    sorry to be annoying.. I also have severe osteoporosis, for which i am refusing the drugs. Steroids are contraindicated.. would this be contraindicated?

    1. thetruth says:

      if you are a woman have your estrogen levels checked low levels in women causes Osteoporosis.

  94. Swim says:

    2nd question: I have a doctor who would help me with this, but it would require being out of town for a few days. Can i carry reconstituted BPC-157 in my suitcase for a few days or is it even too fragile for that? – Swim

  95. Swim says:

    Hey Ben: If PRP did not help shoulder tendinosis, might this? I also have CRPS ( Complex Regional Pain Syndrome), severe small fiber neuropathy, erythromelalgia, Fluoroquinolone toxicity ( which is considered mito damage) has fried all my tendons, autoimmune issues, I am a train wreck and home bound in severe pain. PRIOR to FQ toxicity, CRPS and SFN, I had used a ( manual) wheelchair for 30 years due to crushed sciatic nerves. I was also an avid open water swimmer (1800-3600 yards) and SCUBA diver( last exercise of the disabled).. the first tendons to go were my supraspinatus and teres minor ( Rotator Cuff Tendinosis). PRP did not help. I am losing my mind without exercise. After FQ toxicity i am afraid of everything. I am basically a train wreck, and actually have lost eh will to live. This summer i tried 50 yards with fins and a sorkel and now have knee tendonitis, so i am basically done. The shoulder tendinosis forced me to a power chair which totally sucks. thanks!!!!!! -swim2lakes

    1. kawn55 says:

      Thanks for this info. It seems to be an A+ peptide BPC-157. I just take it oral because I’m not will to do needles.. Period. So I dislocated my right shoulder 32 years ago and until 3 years ago it didn’t hurt but it has & does now. Iv’e been swimming for the last 10 years and had to stop for awhile because of the knot in my arm. My son told me about his BPC-157. Took very little on tongue at a time every other day for a few times. My arm shoulder stopped hurting. My back & knees seemed better too.

    2. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever. But yes, this can work even when PRP doesn't. If it rolled around in your suitcase too much it could be damaged, however…

    3. thetruth says:

      What about stem cell if you got real PRP? there are different types of PRP but Stay positive and dont give up.

  96. Jacob B says:

    Hi Ben, I understand that you are not a doctor but can you recommend BPC-157 for a ruptured extensor carpi ulnaris subsheath (wrist) injury? Thanks!

    1. Jacob B says:

      Also I noticed that you said “I got my BPC-157 from Nordsci which has a 99%+ purity, lyophilized BPC-157 at $99.99 per 5mg bottle.” but Nordsci is now advertising their product (https://www.nord-sci.com/shop/bpc-157/) as “HPLC 98.4% Purity.” Did something change with their quality or supplier? Is this still safe for use?

      1. That's why I like these guys- when their processes change- they report it. Still good- Likely a small change on their part for good reason.

    2. Indeed, not a doctor, have written about BPC-157 here: BenGreenfieldFitness.com/bpc-157

  97. Joe says:

    I’m very interested in this post. I was recently diagnosed with a torn Sartorious muscle as well as a hematoma in the same region of my leg. I understand you’re not a doctor but would you recommend the BPC-157 with the presence of a hematoma? Also would an intramuscular injection be ideal in this case?

    Thanks dude!

    1. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

      There is some evidence that this might actually work well in your situation. You may be able to use subcutaneously.

      1. Tommy Serigne says:

        Hey Ben, my roommate knocked my vials of bpc and igf 1 over in the fridge. How fucked are they?

        1. Not bad if they didn't get shook up too much. Getting knocked over won't degrade many peptides. Just keep them in bubble wrap in future.

          1. Anthony Giachetti says:

            Hi Ben, I would like to follow up. I am not exactly gentle and carry filled syringes to work with me in my briefcase and they will of course be juggled around, are they TAHT sensitive that will make them useless ?

  98. Ryan says:

    Two questions:

    1. I have bpc 157 which came made up already from supplier… has been in fridge unused for last yr. is there shelf life??

    2. Patellar tendinitis… inject where exactly?

    1. Yes, 2-3 weeks in fridge, and a couple months in freezer. Inject subcutaneously is what I would personally do.

      1. kawn55 says:

        Good to know…..

      2. Jay says:

        I get the subcutaneous part but if the problem is the knee or Patella in general would you be grabbing the skin around the patella like .5 of an inch from the patella or more up about mid thigh where there is more fat or area to inject in terms of getting as close to the area effected as possible if it was the knee. I mean is there even fat on the skin around your knee to inject there directly? If it’s getting into the knee joint space and mixing with the fluid is that not ideal, or is it totally fine? Because I am thinking you would want that to happen if you had a damaged ACL and its hard to get to? I mean how else is the 157 going to get to an ACL with the crappy blood supply they have even with great knees? Or is this something that it just wouldn’t work for in the joint space? I am sorry for the war and peace novel but I don’t have $500 lying around for the more direct question one on one for 20 mins ha ha. #Medstudentlife

  99. Erik says:

    Any thoughts on this https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23782145

    Specifically “Blood vessels are also strongly involved in tumor biology. In this aspect, we have neoangiogenesis resulting in pathological vascularization, vascular invasion resulting in release of metastatic cells and the phenomenon of homing resulting in formation of secondary tumors–metastases.”

    1. Yes, I agree, but I suspect you would need to have mechanisms in place to cause cancer, such as inflammation, mitochondrial dysfunction, rampant blood sugar, etc.

    2. Jan says:

      Hi Ben, just wondering what you think of https://www.peptidesciences.com/ as a source for BPC157? They claim 99% purity.

      1. I have not vetted them, so I am not sure.

        1. Impie says:

          Hi Ben

          So I have what is called fluoroquinolone induced tendon damage which basically means damage at mitochondria level. I was thinking of tryng BPC157 and TB500 to get the healing kick started. Would you recommend this or is there risk involved?

          Regards

          Impie

      2. thetruth says:

        they seem to be one of the top carries of all peptides. They are expensive but not sure on quality from what i heard they are good but I personally havent used them. i have used peptides from evolutionpeptides and they have been good though havent tried bpc 157 but the 2 others were good and prices are always good 50% off right now i think.

      3. Mike says:

        I’ve purchased Semorelin, Melanotan II, and BPC from PS, all have been very good. The instant flushing from the Melanotan and hunger from the Semorelin/HGRP-6 were really good indicators. They also ship very quickly. I am not affiliated with them in any way.

  100. Steve says:

    Hi Ben,

    I just checked the math on the mix and 5mg/3ml=~1.7mg/ml or ~1700mcg/ml

    If you are using a 1cc Insulin syringe it is divided into 100 tick marks (not 50 as the calculator states). So dividing 1700mcg/ml by 100=17mcg per tick mark on a 1cc Insulin syringe.

    17mcgx15 tick marks=255mcg.

    This will yield approximately 20 doses per 5mg bottle @ 255mcg per dose.

    I did not read the entire comments before posting this, so if it has already been addressed then please disregard.

  101. Scotty Welch says:

    Can BPC make cancer grow faster? Since it creates new blood vessels in the area, do those blood vessels stay there long permanently or temporarily?

    1. Jeff says:

      Good question. I’m also wondering this.

  102. Roberto says:

    Hello. I purchased this from Peptides Warehouse. However, the bacteriostatic water was acually a sterile water solution that came in a blue bottle that wasn’t even sealed. It might as well have been just regular water, who knows. I am using this anyway, in spite of the increased risks. I just wanted to let others know that you won’t get the BAC from the picture posted. I am not sure if the sealed vial of BAC can be purchased separately from somewhere else. If anyone knows, please post.

    Also, I used 2 ml to dilute into 20 doses of 250mcg each. Per vial. Make sure you get a syringe that has a larger enough needle to reach the bottom of the vial.

    1. nick says:

      You can buy bacteriostatic water at your local pharmacy.

      I’m not sure what you mean about a long needle to reach bottom of vial? you simply turn the vial upside down when drawing out a dose so needle length is never an issue. When the liquid is near being done all you do is make sure the needle is just barely sticking through the rubber top to make sure you get it all.

    2. bacopa says:

      Dude, just turn the bottle upside down and pull it up. ??

  103. Willie says:

    Hello Ben, I believe the original post you said you obtained bpc-157 from blue sky peptide, as this is what’s depicted in the pics above of the vials, but now it says peptide warehouse. Is there a reason for this? Do you not recommend blue sky? Thank you!

  104. Sal says:

    Hi Ben,

    Thanks for all the info! I had a question about taking it orally for gut inflammation. Do you put the powder as is directly into capsules, or is some additional preparation required?

    As for using as an oral spray, forgive me if I’m being dense, but do you mind clarifying what you mix with for reconstitution (the info above shows bacteriostatic water but I’d think that is only for injection).

    Thanks!!

    1. Sal – Did you ever try? I started yesterday for severe Ulcerative Colitis(major gut inflammation). Injection so far, not yet oral. Tomorrow will add sublingual though I hear some GI’s rec. capsules. Joel Sprechman if you want to google and contact me directly. Hope you’re seeing success! I feel I’m just N=1 here

  105. Samuel Hunt says:

    Battling a small partial UCL tear that won’t seem to go away. Few questions. When you injected into your inner elbow, did you inject into the exact same spot every time? Or did you move around a few inches or so? Also to clarify on the syringes.. You used the same size syringe to mix the water/BPC as you did for injections. And throw out every syringe after each injection? Thanks.

    1. As long as it is a sub-q injection I think being anywhere relatively close will be HIGHLY effective. Per your question regarding syringe size: Yes, you can use the same size to reconstitute and inject although as you said above, they are only 1-time sterile usage and you should never re-use a syringe.

  106. Evan says:

    Hey Ben,

    Thank you for the very thoughtful, detailed, and exciting post! I did want to inquire why you opted to go for injections vs oral administration? From my understanding, given BPC-157 is also effective orally (which you also mention), might it make sense to administer orally before jumping to injections?

    Thanks!

    1. Perhaps it is a different form or preparation? Being a peptide sequence I’m fairly certain it would be destroyed. I haven't found a detailed enough study to really confirm what possible oral form there could be.

  107. James says:

    I recently picked up BPC157 from PremierPeptide (not cheap) and after taking noticed a huge appetite increase a little later – this happened each day for 3 days. I went to lookup if this was a side effect (as I’ve taken BPC last year without this effect) and read that some suppliers are substituting some form of ghrp instead of BPC as it’s much cheaper. I don’t know for certain if this happened in my case, but seems suspicious and I’d like to figure it out if there is some way to test the vial…

  108. Chad Adams says:

    1.5 viles of treatment into Achilles tendonopathy treatment. If anything, feeling much more inflamed and achy. I’ve followed all instructions carefully. Anyone else experiencing a fallout before a change for the better?

    1. I’d give it a longer duration. Are you injecting sub-q around the naval region? or?

      1. Eric says:

        Hi Ben,

        Can you go IM in the deltoid for shoulder issues (i.e., biceps tendonitis) or should it definitely be sub q? Also, do you have a source for sermorelin? I only see BPC-157 in your latest source. Thank you!

        1. I would go subcutaneous for deltoid issues because it might be difficult for you to inject yourself intramuscularly. – check this out: https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/article/how-to-u…

    2. Chad Adams says:

      I’m injecting directly to the site of pain. In this case into the Achilles area

      1. Jennifer Cove says:

        Did healing occur?

  109. David says:

    I wanted to know more about the “Fragility” of the peptide. Can you share your thought or post a link on how these peptides can be degraded with bad handling. Also I was thinking about using a needless injector that uses high pressure. But perhaps this will ruin the peptide.

    1. All peptides are vastly different and there is no blanket article that would apply to the handling of all. Most are fairly durable and with the eastern methodology of using a binder such as mannitol when lyophilizing the peptides I haven’t seen anything to suggest people damaging them per se. Due to the infrequency of shots I think you might fair better with just keeping things simple because I can’t even surmise nor do I think anyone can – what a high pressure injector could potentially do.

  110. Mario says:

    Very informative article, I was wondering what selling options are available for an oral spray?

  111. Mlea says:

    My husband has purchased bpc-157. The instructions given call for BAC 30ml, he got 20ml. Can he go ahead or will this make the mixture to potent?

    1. James says:

      20ml is fine, that’s what I’ve used. He will just dose lower (10 units) for a 250mcg.

    2. All dilution is based on math. So if BPC = 5mg per vial. If you add 1ml of bacteriostatic water – .10 (1/10th) of a ML will now become 500mcg (micrograms)

      1. Sean says:

        I used 4 syringes full to the 1cc mark rather than the 3 you recommended. So with this ratio, which mark would I draw up to achieve 250mcg of bpc?

        I used the link for the peptide calculator you provided further up and it recommends drawing up to the 10th tic mark. Just wanted a second set of eyes on my math.

  112. Jason says:

    Hi,

    What if there are 2 injuries? I have 2 minor nagging injuries that are taking forever to heal (>6 months). A shoulder, and lower back. Do I inject at both sites?

    Thanks a million!!

  113. Garry says:

    I have issue regarding my wrist, i got de Quervain’s tenosynovitis 1 or 2 yrs ago, it healed by injecting corticosteroid, but after more than 1 yr, it came back so i went to the doctor and let it inject with corticosteroid again. But after 4-5 months… just 2 days ago de quervain came back again. Should i continue to have coticosteroid treatment or have it surgery? Or will this BPC-157 work with this problem? Hope to hear from you. Thanks

    1. Ray says:

      Garry, did you try BPC-157 on your tenosynovitis? Let me know your results as I’m dealing with the same issue.

  114. joseph says:

    Mr Greenfield

    Can you eat right after pinning? or does it work like GH, to wait 30min because carbs can affect though i read mixed reviews about this?

    also does it elevate IGF’s like GH?

    1. Yes, you can eat right after.

    2. Eating has no relevance. They aren’t chemically similar or functionally for that matter to HGH which main purpose is to increase IGF which is the benefactor. I think they are far superior in terms of healing injuries and have shown solid data with lean body comp but you are comparing apples to oranges – what is your favorite fruit?

      1. Anirban Banerjee says:

        HGH and IGF are far superior to BPC 157 in terms of healing, you say? Or is it the other way around?

  115. Osama Mahmoud says:

    Hi Ben,

    I’ve been suffering from a tibialis anterior tendon injury for over a year that refuses to heal. Would it be ok to inject this somewhere on the top of my midfoot? I’m worried I may cause damage if I hit a nerve/artery or even my plantar nerve.

    1. I would strongly suggest injecting sub-q which could even be in your abdominal and I believe you will still obtain the results or a betterment at very least. But I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  116. Alan B'Stard says:

    Peptide Warehouse now redirects to premierpeptides.com, what’s up with that?

    1. Name change. That's all

      1. Jeff says:

        Peptide Warehouse has their own website again as well as Premier. Any idea what’s going on there? Do you still suggest either of those companies?

        1. Peptides Warehouse is owned by somebody else now and I can no longer vouch for their quality. Oral peptides – Crystagen.com and use code “BGVIP” for 20% off. injectables – nordsci.com BGF20 for 20% off

  117. Kayla Evan says:

    Very interesting info re BPC-157. Peptide Warehouse (their name just changed to Premier Peptide) does not list my state — PENNSYLVANIA — in their drop-down menu on the order page. They have not responded to multiple requests to contact me; don’t know what to do next. Also, MedLab Gear does not have Bacteriostatic Water in their catalog. Found it elsewhere. But still no BPC-157. Any suggestions?

    1. I am looking into this for you.

    2. Eric says:

      I had a similar problem with Premier Peptide. I placed an order but they didn’t fulfill it or reply to my multiple emails since i ordered nearly 2 weeks ago. I found the Peptide warehouse website https://www.peptideswarehouse.com and the order completed and arrived in 2 business days. I told premier just to cancel my order, who knows what they will do.

  118. Bruce says:

    Dosage for hamstring? Is it determined by size and weight?

  119. Gerald says:

    Ben,

    Like the info you shared on the BPC-157. Interesting stuff!

    Any feedback/thoughts/experiences from anyone who has used it for muscle strain? Specifically, grade 2/3 Calf Strain?

    About two and half weeks ago I strained mine playing soccer to the point I had about a 9/10 pain level and could not really walk on it. Rather limped along and not with it because it was so painful to walk.

    As of today, two weeks later after being in BPC-157 I am walking pretty well on it with a pain/tightness level of about a 2. It truly feels a lot better than it two weeks ago and I can assume it’s because of the BPC-157. Last night I went for a light bike ride for little over 6 miles and felt pretty good overall. Just some soreness and tightness on the second part of the ride. Hoping to add in some massage, stretching and mild exercise for the next two weeks to see what I can do to keep speeding up recovery.

    Curious to learn what your experience has been with the BPC-157 for these types of injury have been. Or, feedback from others.

    Thanks!

  120. John says:

    Hey Ben,

    I recently broke my clavicle in a bike accident and had a metal plate put along the top. My friend advised me to use BPC 157, 2x300mcg per day for 3x5mg viles to assit in speeding up recovery. What would be your advise dosage, area to inject and duration? I mixed the 5mg with 1ml of sterile and am using 3 ‘small’ marks on a 1 ml slin pin, 0.03ml. ( that would equate to 300mcg right?).

  121. julie says:

    what would be the correct dosage for a 65kg women? quantity and one or twice a day?

    thanks

    1. I'd go with exactly what I recommend above, about once every 2 days. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  122. Mike says:

    Hi Ben I have peroneal tendonitis and have tried everything, physical therapy, shockwave, prolotherapy and prp. Considering surgery as last option to remove spurs and then possibly operate on tendons to heal split tears I have. Want to try this as last option I’m ordering everything from your last my only question is on injection site. Would I be able to get into the peroneals injecting with a small 30 or 31 gauge? Thanks in advance for just your opinion!

    1. You may just want to try subcutaneous first. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

    2. Lucy says:

      I have this as well. Day 3 the swelling was worse than usual. Tomorrow I’m 1 week in and have yet to see results. I take 500 a day and inject about 4 inches above my ankles.

  123. julie says:

    Hi Ben, if i do a sport who is tested, do you know how long BPC-157 stay in the body? usually urine test, but never know if they could come with blood testing .thanks

  124. Adam says:

    Hey

    Any cognitive benefits using this? Your article is circulating Reddit as something that can help with benzo withdrawal. Can this restore your gaba receptors to homeostasis without the risk of convulsions?

    Thanks

    1. I'm not familiar with cognitive benefit studies but CERTAINLY a GABA effect: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10707891

  125. Dan says:

    If I am doing the injections as you did 250 to 500 a day for two weeks or more how many vials do I need to purchase?

    1. Dan says:

      I am thinking it’s a mix of 5000 so 500 a day would give me 10 days of injections right? Thinking one AM and one PM of 250 each for two weeks and taper down after that depending on how it goes. So 3 vials should do it.

      Injected into the pain site.

      Working on healing a golfers elbow pain from ring muscle up work.

      Sound right?

      1. Rose says:

        Hi Ben,

        Do you think this could heal nerve damage in the ears? Or help with post-concussion syndrome and whiplash? I was thinking maybe it could be used as a nasal spray to help with the concussion symptoms. Injected into the neck for the whiplash and maybe injected around the ears for the noise sensitivity?

        1. Maybe. I have not seen clinical evidence for any of that though! You could certainly try it…I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  126. Leo says:

    Hi Ben

    Do you think it will work with DSMO and power. Or premix the power with water and than mix DSMO. And rub on the site. No injections needed… Any thoughts

    1. Simply follow the exact mixing instructions that I have listed above. Nothing else will work.

  127. Ken says:

    Ben, if you had a neck injury (Muscle strain, injured ligament) would you use it for that as well.

    1. I am not a doctor and nothing I say should be taken as medical advice. If it was me personally, yes I'd try it!

  128. vid says:

    Would this work for gastritis?

    1. Orally it is supposed to help, yes! I am not a doctor and nothing I say should be taken as medical advice!

  129. A Real Doctor says:

    I only read this blog because my brother urged me to tell him my thoughts on it, and I seriously recommend NOT using this compound.

    There is no regulation on the facilities providing it thus you have no way to know for sure what they are actually selling you (or you’re injecting into yourself). Any thing you inject subcutaneously does not stay put; it is absorbed systemically throughout you’re body and can cause countless unknown effects to every organ system you have.

    The fact is that this product has NOT been deemed SAFE by any substantial or respectable clinical trial (even the authors of the research on it say so themselves) and is NOT proven to cure or treat any disease in humans.

    If you believe the false statement that since it is “natural” then “big pharma” cannot sell it, then you should look into insulin, human IVIG, human albumin and other biological compounds, some from humans (blood donations), sold by big pharma daily (with FDA approval of course).

    I urge you to be SMART and be SAFE.

    1. Jaxon says:

      He specifically said “cannot patent it”, not “cannot sell it”.

      There is a difference.

  130. Not-A-Doctor says:

    I just wanted to shed some light on what appears to be a really faulty calculator advised in this blog. That calculator is off by around 50% in that it will under-dose you by 50% , which is better than overdosing for sure, but still wildly inaccurate.

    We can prove this with some common sense here…..

    To make this simple, just put 1ml, 1mg, 1ml and 100mcg dose for steps 1-4 and you’ll see the calc advises to draw 5 ticks on a 100 unit syringe. 100 units = 1ml, so 5 ticks = 0.05ml

    Yet its quite clear that 10% of a 1mg dose is 100mcg, which would be represented by 10 units on a 100 unit syringe. Yet this calculator advises to pull 5.

    Everyone can just use some common sense math to figure out their own doses. If you want to make it really easy, you can put 2mL of the bac water, and then every 10 units = 250mcg. So you would pull to the 10th tick mark, or the big “10” marker.

    If you only put 1mL of bac water than 10 units would = 500mcg

    I dont know why this blog is advertising this easily provably flawed calculator, but using some common sense math should help you all get the dosage correct.

    1. Pasquale Stalteri says:

      I’m glad I’m not the only one noticing the mathematical error.

      So if you want 250mcg either use 2ml of BAC to reconstitute and then draw to the 10 unit marker (10 ticks) or use 1ml of BAC and draw to the 5 unit marker (5 ticks)

      Thanks for the clarification

      1. Al says:

        Thats if your syringe goes in tick increments of 2. Some have tick increments of 1

        1. Yes, watch the ticks.

    2. ed says:

      Five tick marks on a 100 IU syringe is 10 which is 0.1ml not 0.05

  131. Pasquale Stalteri says:

    Hi Ben – Are you sure the math is correct in your post? Reconstituting 5 mg of powder into 3cc of BAC means that there is now 1.66mg of BPC 157 per 1 cc of solution. So then injecting .08 cc of solution would give you approximately 133 mcg and not 250mcg. Or am I doing the math wrong?

  132. Mike says:

    Ben,

    I have arthritis in both thumbs, shoulders and knees. How would BPC-157 impact these areas and should I just take it orally since I have such wide spread issues?

    1. You may be a good candidate for oral absorption, and you'd probably notice a difference. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  133. Christiaan says:

    Furthermore, examine.com notes:
    “BPC-157 is a patented supplement and there may be crossover between those mentioned in the patent and the researchers of many of the relevant studies.”

    Perhaps you’ve confused BPC-157 with TB-500?

  134. Christiaan says:

    Examine.com contradict your claim that BPC-157 is “a peptide you can actually find in your own gastric juices”

    Examine.com:

    “BPC-157 … is considered synthetic because this particular sequence does not exist in nature. It is derived from a protective protein found in the stomach.”

    They also contradict your claim that “long term studies in humans are relatively sparse”

    Examine.com:

    “BPC-157 shows promise, but human studies are needed to demonstrate that these benefits extend beyond research animals.” … “there is no human evidence for BPC-157 and the majority of the research has been conducted by a single research group”

  135. Ross says:

    Hi Ben, I’m trying to figure out how many of each thing I need to get. How many doses does a 5mg bottle provide? That’s assuming it goes through the reconstitution process that you describe, and are taking the same 250mcg dosage you mentioned.
    Then with a 30ml bottle of bacteriostatic water, how many bottles of BPC-157 can it reconstitute?
    Do you have a shopping list with the quantities of each? (I ask my wife for the same thing when I go to the grocery store.)
    Thanks!

    1. Well…

      250mcg x 4 = 1mg
      20 “proposed” doses per bottle

      You could reconstitute about 10 vials with 1 bacteriostatic water

  136. Mark says:

    BPC 157 , -I intend to use this for injury for achilles tendonitis, where would you suggest to pin yourself with this. Into the achilles tendon, bottom of calf or oral ?

    Kind regards

    1. I'd just go subcutaneous as close to injury as possible. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  137. Abbie says:

    Hi Ben,

    I’ve been injecting the peptides for almost 2 weeks now in my knee twice a day, and it is still in a lot of pain – sometimes more than it was before the peptides. I have patella foemoral syndrome and have had it for 10 years. I haven’t done any exercise on it since I started the peptides.

    Any suggestions as to what I should do?

    Thanks!

  138. Carson says:

    Hi Ben,

    I would like to clarify your Oral* description.

    If one were to let this sit in the mouth for 90-120 seconds would it not act more sublingual. Oral is when something has to pass through the GI Tract. You do mention to swallow it eventually. But would it not be better to wash it down with a little water to speed it through the GI tract so it possibly reaches further down the tract(intestines etc)?. The study referenced “Promote tendon and ligament healing by tendon outgrowth, cell survival, and cell migration in a rodent model of Achilles tendon rupture, and also *when administered in drinking water* to rats with damaged medial collateral ligaments”.

    Just some thoughts what do you think?

    1. Yes, sublingual may be a more appropriate description…but it will wind up in GI tract…

  139. Emma Lavallee says:

    Hi Ben,

    I am super excited to try using BCP 157 for my rotator cuff tendinosis. I’m just curious about where exactly to inject and which method of injection is best. Or oral?

    It’s the subscapularis area of my rotator cuff that’s injured. I also read that Injecting directing into a tendon can be dangerous…

    What are your thoughts?

    Thanks!

  140. Simon says:

    Correction,

    BPC – 157

  141. Simon says:

    Hi Ben – I have an ageing dog with polyarthritis.He was on NSAIDS , and now on prednisone.
    We believe the NSAIDS have messed up his gut, is there any chance BCP – 157 could help him with his gut / arthritic pain?(healing effect)
    Does BCP – 157 have any positive effect on arthritis?

    1. Yes, it is definitely worth a try and has been used for that quite a bit in horses actually. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  142. Joriah Mielke says:

    Hey Ben thanks for the information, I am always delighted to read more of your articles. I just screwed my ankle up so I’m going to inject it with your magic serum. Can I inject multiple places with the same needle? For example with a 250mcg syringe, can I inject one area with 125 and then immediately take it out and inject another area with the remaining 125?

    1. Not a good idea. Proper needle hygiene would mean only ONE injection with ONE needle per site…I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  143. CSKO3 says:

    Well I followed the directions and attached is a link to the two pictures of my gear setup showing the reconstituted BPC157 and my syringe style along with sterile water etc.

    https://app.box.com/s/g0hp4vfuw5oif2t6bf8ry4t6qk5…

    1 pic shows what I believe to be the 8 tick mark (approx) on a 1ml/cc syringe.

    2. The other pic shows how full the 5mg bottle of BPC157 is after putting in 3 – 1ml/cc full syringes of sterile water. It’s only about half way.

    The plan is to to do 2 of these (8 tick mark) doses a day. I plan to take it orally for systemic effects.

    Thoughts Ben? Anyone else?

    Did I get this right?

    1. Looks right. To really dig in and have me personally assist, I'd be happy to help you via a personal one-on-one consult. Just go to https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/coaching. and then choose a 20 or 60 minute consult, whichever you'd prefer. I can schedule ASAP after you get that.

  144. Jonatan Sjöberg says:

    Hi Ben,
    Thx for the article and I’m thinking to combine BPC157 and BT500 to heal some nagging injuries that doesn’t want to heal :P but my question is, do I need to run anything particular with these two peptides? like AI? And do I need to do PCT after using BPC157 and BT500? I know that I don’t need to do but I want to ask and be sure because it gonna be my first time doing such a supplement.

    1. No PCT needed after peptides…but plenty you can run with them, like SARMS. I'd be happy to help you via a personal one-on-one consult. Just go to https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/coaching. and then choose a 20 or 60 minute consult, whichever you'd prefer. I can schedule ASAP after you get that.

  145. Keith says:

    Why Bacteriostatic water and not Normal Saline or even lidocaine for reconstitution? I use both of those for reconstituting antibiotics and vaccines all the time.

      1. Shor says:

        Hi Ben, informative article, much appreciated. Here you say that the BAC water is the cleanest option – are there potential downsides for absorption / pharmacokinetics if BPC is constituted with 0.9% saline or 1% lidocaine?

        I am also wondering if you have come across any opinions regarding possible benefits or contraindications when administering BPC while on a course of testosterone cypionate.

        These questions are meant to be theoretical, I am not soliciting advice, medical or otherwise.

        Thank you.

  146. Hi Ben!

    I suffered a bad ankle sprain/partial tear 1 week ago-on the 1st of April 2017.

    We immediately started the Sc. injections 2 times daily.

    The reason I’m writing you is that these injections are sometimes really very painful for me. Last time I was screaming on getting it, so that my husband decided not to give it to me like this anymore.

    My questions:

    1. Have you got any idea, why it is that much painful?

    2. I continue the treatment orally for a while-will it work as affectively as the Sc. injections??

    Waiting for your help,

    Regards,

    Orsolya Dargai

    1. I would consider some mental relaxation techniques like deep breathing and meditation to relieve the pain, as often that is just a stress response. And SC is more effective than oral…

  147. Bill says:

    Would BPC-157 be something you possibly use in the feet. I had minor surgery in the back of my foot/heel area 6 months ago. And I’m comfortably back to full contact sports, but I still feel that I have some inflammation and lack of range-of-motion throughout the back part of my foot. What are your thoughts on injections in the feet?

    Bill

    1. Totally do-able and could work. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  148. Doug says:

    I went today to purchase from the Peptide Warehouse website that is listed multiple times in the article. The link did not work and took me to an “error screen” every time I click the link. So I went to the Peptide Warehouse website directly off google, and when I try to add BPC-157 to my cart, it takes me to the same “error screen”. Is something wrong with the site?? If so, any suggestions for other reliable places to buy good quality BPC-157?

    Thanks,

    Doug

    1. Hey Doug,

      There were just doing security patches, it should be all good now!

  149. Billy Dekker says:

    Your calculations regarding a 250mcg dose using 3 ml bac water to mix a 5mg vial are incorrect.

    5 mg = 5000mcg @ 1000mcg per 1 ml. So that equates to 20 doses of 250mcg per 5mg vial. 3 ml divided by 20 = .15 cc or half way between .1 and .2.

    So

    5×1000=5000

    5000/250=20

    3ml/20=.15 (on 1ml slin pin)

    1. Peter says:

      I agree with Bill .
      If You put 2 ml in to 5mg vial its mean every 0.1 ml it will be 250mcg

      1. Adam says:

        I wonder why he never amswers any of the comments mentioning his wrong dosing calculations?

        1. I am sorry I missed your question. I just over looked it. Can you please remind me your question?

  150. John says:

    Hi,

    Are you a climber? I am wondering if you took a rest from climbing/pull ups (or whatever gave you climber’s elbow) while healing it, or if you just pushed through and let the elixer do it’s thing?

    1. I did a ton in addition to this, including https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/armaid – I'd be happy to help you via a personal one-on-one consult. Just go to https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/coaching. and then choose a 20 or 60 minute consult, whichever you'd prefer. I can schedule ASAP after you get that.

      1. John says:

        Thank you, I have actually been wanting to get one of those arm aids!

        But my question was, did you keep doing your rope climbs etc during the 2 weeks you were taking BPC-157?

        Thanks!

  151. Mark says:

    WARNING: People need to be SERIOUSLY CAREFUL here – if you hit a nerve, you can cause permanent paralysis!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  152. Brock says:

    Hey Ben,

    Just recently found out that a collision with my upper knee/quad caused a tear in the quad muscle (close to where it connects to the knee) and a small amount of tendon damage. Would BPC help for this? And hypothetically, would you Sub q inject or go straight into the quad muscle close to the knee??

    Thanks,

    Brock

    1. I'd go SubQ as close to knee as possible if it were me. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  153. Moe says:

    Hey ben where exactly would u inject for elbow? Can u link a pic with a indication of where to inject for elbow tenditis?

    1. Moe, you simply need to get as close to the injury site as possible. If you want to go into detail feel free to book a consult by going to <a href="https://greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/ben” target=”_blank”>www.greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/ben and choosing 20 or 60 minutes and we'll get you scheduled to go through it via a Skype interview and I can show you everything you need to know. Hope that helps.

    2. Tim says:

      I have been trying to order from peptide warehouse and it has been a nightmare to pay. There pay site is confusing. Any sugestions on another trusted site

      1. They are a very trustworthy site, it's just tricky with what they are selling. If you let me know your issue I will reach out to them for help!

  154. Jonathan Bollag says:

    Ben,

    I said in previous comment I use 200 mcg, I think this is correct, I fill the needles you suggest to buy to “20”, I think this is 200 mcg.

  155. Jonathan Bollag says:

    Ben,

    I have been using bpc-157 per your article every other day every other week for about 4 months and it really helps my ankle which I injured about 8 years ago playing basketball. The pain is chronic and I was wondering if you think with this type of dose schedule 200 mcg every other day with taking every other week off can be done long term like for years or if I should be taking like some months off in between, like a month off after a four month period of injecting or maybe even six months off at this point or in the future. Thanks for any knowledge you can share.

    1. That sounds like about the right dosage to me. But I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

      1. Jonathan Bollag says:

        Ben, I completely understand that you are not a doctor and these are only your personal thoughts. I was just looking for your “non-medical” personal opinion.

  156. Greg Davis says:

    Hi Ben. I had what was seemingly trochanteric ( hip) bursitis, but seems to be more tendon damage. Hurts when I walk, squat, sit, sleep… Is sub Q ok for this or do I have to go intra muscular?

    1. Greg! Sub q is fine, intramuscular is even better BUT I am not a doctor and nothing I say should be taken as medical advice, these are just my personal opinions..

  157. Mara says:

    You said .8 on a 1cc syringe so almost a full syringe am I understanding this right. Thanks

    1. totally depends. Use the calculator and only fill to the tick mark recommended.

    2. John says:

      Mara:

      No, .8cc mark would be too much.

      “8th tick mark” is less than .2cc

      But don’t take my word for it, do the math on how much water you reconstitute with etc.

  158. Zac says:

    I have an upcoming ACL reconstruction surgery, and I am trying to get all my ducks in a row for the recovery. Any testimonials out there for anyone using this as a post operative anti-inflammatory and regeneration? If not Ben, would you personally have any hesitation to using?

    1. Most research indicates should work for that. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

    2. Nordy says:

      Hi there dear. Sir.. I was wondering where does bpc157 come from human and animal? Dead or alive?

  159. Sean says:

    Accidentally asked this on your tb500 thread, but just to clarify both bpc157 and bacwater are safe to inject orally correct? And also if taken orally will it still help heal other parts of the body? Ive got some nagging issues in a bunch of different places and was wondering if I could just take orally and get a benefit to them all. Thanks for your time

    1. INJECT orally no. But you can just consume orally. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

      1. Sean says:

        Sorry I meant CONSUME. So if taken orally will it have a systematic effect on injuries in varying places?

        1. yep. not quite as effective as injecting, but effective.

  160. Carson says:

    I have not seen this answered in similar fashion. If someone has an oblique injury with very little body fat to inject subq…Any suggestions?

    1. Just pinch up the skin. You don't need much.

    2. Carson says:

      Hi,

      To clarify i am veiny lean lol.

      If i get a little pinch of skin and put the needle in….might that possibly mean it would not be going into the fat (subq) as needed and just skin.

      Hell a high carb salty meal can tack on a little extra skin, doesnt mean fat lol

      Thanks ben

  161. Doug says:

    Would BPC be something that could help with pain in the lower abs and groin? Having a hard time finding anything that works for my bone and muscle issues in the pubic region where they meet.

    Doug

    1. I am not a doctor and nothing I say should be taken as medical advice, please consult your physician about this. If it would me, I would give it ago. I'd be happy to help you via a personal one-on-one consult. Just go to https://greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/product/ben-… and then choose a 20 or 60 minute consult, whichever you'd prefer. I can schedule ASAP after you get that.

  162. Mark Fuhrman says:

    I find it interesting your domain was transferred on the exact same date that peptideswarehouse.com was created. I’m going to prove that you are the owner or have a stake in Peptides Warehouse and expose you for the misleading sack of shit you are.

    1. Dude I don't own either of those sites. Seriously. Settle down.

  163. Mark Fuhrman says:

    Good job shilling for Peptide Warehouse. $44 for a vial of BPC is ludicrous.

    1. Guess it depends on what kind of quality you want.

  164. Nicole Peel says:

    Hi Ben-

    I’ve been using BPC-157 for 10 days now for a nasty horribly long case of Achilles tendinitis. I’m a runner by the way. So far no relief. Do you recommend total rest from running while doing the injections?? I just got released from the doctor and was trying to rebuild with a run/walk program at 4 miles every other day.

    1. Achilles tendonitis needs rest and a ton more. I'd be happy to help you via a personal one-on-one consult. Just go to https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/coaching. and then choose a 20 or 60 minute consult, whichever you'd prefer. I can schedule ASAP after you get that.

    2. Nicole Peel says:

      Well I’d love to do a personal consult with you but can’t afford it. I have seen a doctor that is also a runner and it had 3 1/2 months complete rest, anti-inflammatories, boot @ night, massage and anything else you can name. Soooo BPC-157 was a last hope based on your praises.

  165. M Jade says:

    Hi Ben. Thanks for all the amazing info week after week. I love your podcasts and articles. I would love your opinion on using BPC 157 injections as you describe in the article for a very persistent case of posterior tibial tendonitis. Even with quite a bit of rest, using a walking boot, eating anti inflammatory, and working on correcting running form/strengthening, this tendonitis has plagued me for three months now. I am an avid distance runner and need this to heal? Please let me know if you think this could be effective, and if you would recommend any changes to your protocol in the article. Also, how much would my results be diminished if I used the bps orally not subcutaneously? Lastly, where should I inject the bpc if I go that route? I have pain mostly right around the malleolus, but often into my arch and above the malleolus along the tendon. thanks again

    1. Yep, I'd use it subcutaneously for that for sure. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  166. Bruce says:

    I am a basketball player with “osteitis pubis” which is major bone inflammation and some muscle/tendon pain throughout my pubic and hip/groin area. Basically a form of sports hernia in simpler terms. Would BPC-157 help improve/heal these issues? And if I used it, where would you suggest I inject?

    1. Since that is more of a bone issue, there are other things he should be doing for sure as I don't think BPC would work well for this (I'd had osteitis in the past and fixed it with other methods). I'd be happy to help you via a personal one-on-one consult. Just go to https://greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/product/ben-… and then choose a 20 or 60 minute consult, whichever you'd prefer. I can schedule ASAP after you get that.

  167. Luke says:

    Hi Ben,

    Quick question about the reconstitution, want to make sure I’m doing it correctly ????

    I ordered everything from your links, but I got the .5 cc syringe instead of the 1 CC you use in your example. Anyhoo, to make things equal I added 6 full syringes to the 5 mg BPC, instead of 3. You said it should just about completely fill the bottle of BPC, but mine only filled maybe 2/3 full or 3/4 full… definitely not all the way. Is this OK or should the vial of BCP be filled all the way to the top?

    I got hit with a lacrosse ball in the nuts playing LAX with my bros the other day so planning to injustice it into my right testicle to repair the damage. Will post the results!

    1. Hey Luke, I am not a doctor and nothing I say should be taken as medical advice. I would check out my peptide calculator here: https://researchpeptides.com/forums/58-peptide-ca… This is the only way to go because I can't vouch for the math for every single commenter. However, it should be filled all the way to the top almost if he did indeed add that much Bacteriostatic water. If you want to take a deep dive, I'd be happy to help you via a personal one-on-one consult. Just go to https://greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/product/ben-… and then choose a 20 or 60 minute consult, whichever you'd prefer. I can schedule ASAP after you get that.

  168. steveh says:

    Looking for how I can use this to keep really healthy gums. I suppose I could just inject on each quadrant of my gumline but I’m surely not going to inject into gum tissue. ouch. Does anyone have any thoughts on how I can use bpc to maintain glorious gum tissue? Also I have bacerio water is that ok to inject orally? Or is there a different kind of water to use for oral admin?

    1. You can totally take this orally and even switch around in your mouth… I would inject… But that's just me…

  169. Mehtab says:

    Ive had chronic plantar fasciitis injury for a few months now and tried a couple of things like shockwave therapy, massage etc nothings really worked, was looking at getting stem cell therapy to heal it, but after reading this and having used peptides before (never BPC-157 though) might try this first. Any idea if this would work on this type of injury?
    Also does it matter where you inject it for a specific type of injury like mine? Would it have to be near the calf /heel area or can I just stick in sub Q? Appreciate your thoughts on this.

    p.s. the work you do is awesome! thank you :D

    1. I am not a doctor and nothing I say should be taken as medical advice – please consult your physician about this! If it were me, yes I would try and injection is always as close to the injury site as possible.

  170. Karl says:

    Hi Ben, great article! I have a question though, do you know how long a reconstituted (BAC water) bpc 157 will last in the refrigerator?
    Some says months while others say 2 weeks, so i’m confused :P

  171. Jerry says:

    Ian above had a good idea for storing frozen sterile water vials for oral use. Could you use this in a nebulizer? I know many successfully nebulize aminos such as glutathione. BAC shouldn’t be nebulized (can cause bronchospasm). How successful are peptides at passing through the stomach? Thank you!

  172. Dave says:

    Hey Ben,

    I have taking 250mcg AM and 250mcg PM of BPC157 post rotator cuff surgery. It looks like my distal (lower) bicep tendon is partially torn as well. Do you think that injecting into the shoulder would benefit my bicep injury as well? Thanks.

    Dave

    1. Yes, Subcutaneously, but I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  173. geri says:

    hello, and when I have brain damage from psychiatric drugs, where should you inject it? thank you veryund much

    1. Not sure it would be ideal for this situation. I'd see a doctor. In terms of doctors, here are a few directories that may help you find a good functional medicine or naturopathic practitioner in your area:

      • HealthProfs.com
      • FunctionalMedicine.org
      • Naturopathic.org
      • PrimalDocs.com
      • PaleoPhysiciansNetwork.com

      That will ensure you find someone who I would likely vouch for!

  174. John Holmes says:

    That price is a ripoff. Even Dat/AV was cheaper (and more widely recognized as being as close to pharm grade as one could get).

  175. John says:

    Great article! I have a question though, do you think i will get any effects if i use a daily dose of 300 mcg but split in two at two different locations? That is, 150 mcg in each elbow daily.

    1. I don't see any issue with that. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  176. Dave says:

    Update on nausea and BPC-157: Turns out it did NOT cause my nausea post rotator cuff surgery. Possibly exacerbated it. The colprit was the pain medication. I’m off of the pain Med’s and have no issues with the BPC! Thx

    1. vid says:

      Any luck with the gastritis Ian?

  177. Ian says:

    If you’re only interested in taking BCP-157 orally (like me), I’d like to offer an alternate method than using bacteriostatic water. Just use sterile water but aliquot the peptide mixture into small tubes, 1 tube per day with the corresponding dose. I’m using 14 plastic bjiou, but any small clean plastic tube with a lid with do. Then immediately freeze all the tubes. Each day, take a tube out of freezer, defrost in your hand and ingest orally.

    Thanks for all the info Ben, I’m planning to to BCP-157 to treat my chronic gastritis and intestinal pain. I’ll post back here in a couple of months time with the results.

    1. Luigi says:

      Ian

      How did you get on with the bcp157?

      I have chronic gastritis too.

      Luigi

  178. Michael says:

    Is there any evidence oral is less effective than subq for joint repair? It seems like unless you’re injecting into the actual tissue it wouldn’t make much difference as it would all be distributed systemically. Have you tried oral use for joint injuries?

  179. Dave says:

    Hey Ben, I recently had surgery to repair a full thickness tear of my supraspinatus (rotator cuff). I tried my first injection of 250 mcg. the following day in the trap area, because that was as close as I could get to the shoulder at that time. About 8 hours later I got extremely nauseous. It finally passed. The next day I did the same injection and again, about 8-10 hours later got very nauseous, eventually throwing up like I never had before. I skipped 2 days and had a little nausea off and on. Then I tried another injection and like clockwork, got extremely nauseous 7-8 hours later.

    I am still taking some pain meds for shoulder post surgery. This can also contribute to nausea. Have you heard of anything like this happening as a side effect? I went to a reputable site, and the BPC-157 was priced higher than most other sites.

    I really want to be able to continue this to help heal my rotator cuff. But it seems like it might be causing the nausea.

    Thanks!!

    1. Sounds to me like you may have gotten a bad batch of BPC… I will only vouch for the site that I recommend in this article… Sorry to hear about your experience man.

      1. Dave says:

        I bought 6 vials. I guess I could toss the first one and reconstitute a new one and give it a try. Thanks for your input Ben.

  180. Mike says:

    Hi Ben, I was just wondering, with regard to using this for gut issues, did you find that one dosage was sufficient for a whole day, or do you need to take it before each meal.

    Also did you find it effective systemically when used this way?

    Thanks

    1. One dose. And it is indeed quite effective systemically…

      1. Mike says:

        Excellent. I’ve convinced my dad to try it and as you can perhaps imagine, pinning it is a bit of a stretch for ‘the older generation’. He has both gut issues and arthritic issues, so if it helps just one of those it would be great. Thanks for the reply Ben.

  181. skr says:

    Hey Ben, not sure if you’ll be able to read this but I’ll hope for a response anyway — in your unprofessional non-medical experience, would BPC-157 be a good option for costochondritis or TMJ? Been dealing with CFS and am desperate.

    1. Injecting SubQ near those areas couldn't really HURT. It is worth a try. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  182. Nama88 says:

    Hey Ben,

    Are you aware if BPC 157 produces some sort of metabolite or something of that nature that would show up on a urine drug screen? You’re well versed in this matter and I figured I’d ask before I jump head first into a bottle of it myself.

    1. None that I'm aware of. Plus it's not banned anyways.

  183. FNQ Fighter says:

    Just started using bpc for burstitis in my shoulder. I work as a rope access tech for a living and have been in considerable pain for quite a while. I also do jiu jitsu but have not been able to train for 7 weeks.

    I am administering it around the injured shoulder and have so far used it on a 4 days on 2 off regime with some success at one injection per day at 750 mcg. I was using Celebrex for pain relief and since using the bpc I haven’t needed it everyday.

    I have only used it for three cycles and will start pushing it daily for 4 weeks with frag 176-191 and start light gym work again. Hopefully all will go well. Thanks for the article, I found it very enlightening.

  184. LadyBoss says:

    The article mentions, in part “…stimulates expression of genes responsible for cytokine…” I’m dealing with an autoimmune disease labeled Mixed Connective Tissue Disease, so naturally I’m very cautious about trying anything that may exacerbate or cause a flare; however, am desperate to try anything that will help diminish gastrointestinal issues and muscle pain. Would this peptide cause autoimmune flares, do you think?

    1. It acts on the mechanism of causing some amount of localized inflammation, but not systemic inflammation like you would have with autoimmune disease. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever.

  185. Noah says:

    Hi Ben,

    I runnin my third week of BPC for severe tennis elbow on both sides and it’s really worked great. One thing that I can’t seem to find anyone else experiencing is shakes. Have you heard anyone dealing with this? It’s not a jitter like clen it’s just my hands start shaking about 5 mins after injection.

    1. I have NOT heard of that occurring. perhaps others here in the comments section can pipe in if they have…

  186. Lee says:

    Hi brendan can you give us more info on bpc 157 how you used etc and were you got it from

  187. DJ says:

    Peptides Warehouse is a bit of a concern. Each time I ordered online i:

    – Had to resubmit credit card information twice and then still call because the order would not go through

    AND

    – had my credit card compromised around the same time.

    It shouldn’t be this hard to order something online.

  188. George says:

    I have tried bpc 157 on my shoulder and now on my knee and its a bit worse than before i think…i went to my doctor he showed me where to inject it with the correct amount and really nothing..sorry but it is a waste of money!

  189. Dr Sara says:

    Great article ! Love it. Im a biochemist and I experimented with the dose and 10-20ug per Kg body weight works best. Also as there is a higher demand for compounds for repair, adding in extra glucosamine, chondroitin, MSM and gelatin (denatured collagen) is important so the body has enough pre-cursors to repair the connective tissue

  190. Kevin says:

    Any suggestions of where to inject for a rhomboid injury? I can’t reach my upper back and I don’t think there are subQ sites nearby either.

    1. Anywhere you can reach subcutaneously relatively near site. Otherwise, you'll need to have a friend or loved one inject, or just take orally.

  191. Deric J says:

    How long should one inject BPC-157? I just went through my first vial, but was thinking of giving my arm a rest for a week or two due to bruising from the injections. I wasnt sure if this was something to use in moderation for just short bursts, or if I should use it throughout the duration of rehab? Or beyond for any underlying issues that may not be symptomatic?

    1. Cycles range from 2 weeks up to 12 weeks from what I've seen. If you haven't healed after 12 weeks you may need to be using some additional protocols…

  192. Kevin Fikes says:

    Hi Ben!

    I’d also be interested in learning more about DSIP (Delta Sleep Inducing Peptide). Thanks for all the great info you share!

    1. This is not one that I've looked into before but I'll research it. Stay tuned!

  193. Noah says:

    Dude I was so close to scheduling an appointment with my doctor for stem cell injections at 5gs. I’m definitely going to give this a try. Much respect!

    1. Bogi says:

      Hey man, I’d love to know where you get your Vietnamese stuff from.

  194. Randall Barron says:

    For reliable sources:

    geopeptides.com

    allamericanpeptides.com

    evolutionpeptides.com

    But for me I found a supplier in Vietnam and I’ve ordered boxes at a time. Haven’t had it tested but it works, I know i’ve used it enough.

  195. Randall Barron says:

    Late to this part but let me throw this on to the pile. I’ve been using BPC 157 for around 4 months for various injuries. I’m a gym rat and there’s always something, and BPC has healed everything including a bad case of TMJ with displacement.

    I would have to pop my jaw back into place once or twice a night and during the day I would have to adjust it, especially after eating. 3 weeks of BPC injected into my check above the jaw hinge and it’s completely healed.

    Another thing I noticed is that I’ve had receding gums for a while, including a gum that had receded above a capped front tooth. So I had a black line at the top of the cap and it made me very self conscious about smiling. Guess what? After all these months of using BPC on an almost daily basis…..the gums have grown back to where they’re supposed to be! THe gum above the capped toothn now covers the top of the cap!

    I’m 50 now, and BPC 157 will be in my life for the duration!

  196. Zachary says:

    I just got my BPC 157 today. I think I have what’s called a sports hernia, but that’s a misnomer. The more accurate term is athletic pubalgia and it’s common in people who have a repeated history of straining their groin. (Oddly enough, I have never strained mine)

    The way my physical therapist explains it is the tendon has begun to fray like the threads on a baseball. My dad had surgery on his and it would probably cost me about $40,000. So I’m eager to try this and hope it will save me from an expensive surgery!

    I was hoping to get advice on when you recommend intramuscular vs. subQ. Seems like you have recommended subQ to for tendons or cartilage and intramuscular for strains and pulls. Mine may be one or the other or a combination of the two. It’s been nagging me for over a year now.

    1. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever. I'd try something subcutaneous close to groin…if it were me…

  197. Curt says:

    Great article, Ben. I’ve been trying BPC-157 after reading this, but I’ve found that it isn’t as free of side-effects as claimed. I’ve experienced the following, all within 1-2 hours of 250 mcg injections:

    -Slight aches in various parts of the body (perhaps neuropathic)

    -Trouble sleeping

    -Brain fog

    -Feeling of lethargy

    -Noted decrease in verbal fluency

    I know BPC-157 affects dopamine neurons. Have you encountered any of these side effects in your research for this article?

    1. None of these effects. I'm wondering where you got your BPC? A ton of bad, cheap stuff is out there.

      1. Curt says:

        Got it from Peptide Warehouse. I wonder if I got a bad batch or if it got degraded somehow.

  198. Daniel says:

    I have tendonitis all over from taking acne medicine Accutane. Would either TB500 or BPC157 be better than the other or should I combine both?

    1. TB500 is going to be better. You can read more about it here: https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/2016/06/how-to-u…

  199. Deric J says:

    SLAP tear of the Right labrum. Will this benefit post surgery?

    1. According to the research in mice, yes.

  200. Marni says:

    I have a “hematoma” the size of a baseball in my hip; from having crashed my bike and landing on my hip. It has shrunk a small bit and medical people told me it would be reabsorbed on its own. However almost 4 years later that has not been the case. I recently went to the doc about it — they took an X-ray and we know it has NOT calcified. Would there be any point of trying an injection of BPC-157? Into the hematoma? While I don’t really have any specific pain from it any longer it is really visible in my lycra shorts and I’m already self conscious about my hips… Thanks!

    1. I am not a doctor and this is not to be taken, interpreted or construed as medical advice. Please talk with a licensed medical professional about this. These are just my own personal thoughts and not a prescription or a diagnosis or any form of health care whatsoever. In my opinion, since BPC and TB-500 have been shown to help with bruising and blood vessel healing, they would be worth a try.

  201. Zac says:

    Thanks heaps for info very appreciated. I was wondering if it could help with an exertion headache (comes on with medium head pressure) that I got after pb leg press (yes I held breath ) and if so where should I inject? Thanx again

    1. I would TRY subcutaneously for this but haven't seen much evidence for headache treatment for exertion headache.

  202. Ferdinand says:

    I am thinking of using this stuff to help heal a serious wrist injury. I suffered a very deep cut on the outside of my wrist that severed all 7 extensor tendons. Would it be better to use an IM or Sub Q injection and where should I inject into? After all there isn’t much muscle or fat on the wrist.

    Regards
    Ferdinand

    1. Have a read through the whole post and all your answers are going to be in there!

  203. Lee says:

    Ben, a year ago I completely detached all 3 heads of my right hammie from my pelvis and required surgery. Recently I felt a pop in the left but I believe it’s only partially torn because I still have strength etc. to the muscle. Did you inject your hamstring at the base of your glute? And if so how? This is a difficult area to injected without assistance…..

    1. I injected my hamstring at the base of my glute – yes. I just put my leg up on a bench and was able to access it easily.

  204. D Eric Boll says:

    Ben, recently diagnosed with a full thickness infraspinatus tear in the right rotator cuff. Surgery is indicated, but what are your thoughts regarding pre or post surgery usage? When you discussed tendon healing, you were most likely talking about partial thickness tears correct? As its under tension, I am assuming the surgeon will need to “fish”the tendon back to reapproximate with the humerous. Any info you have is highly appreciated.

    1. Yes, you can use and if it were me, I'd use post-surgery to increase healing. For more help with this (there's a lot you can do about this tear), I'd be happy to help you via a personal one-on-one consult. Just go to https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/coaching. and then choose a 20 or 60 minute consult, whichever you'd prefer. I can schedule ASAP after you get that.

  205. Joe says:

    Arrh- spelling/rushing,

    Any idea how effective this is for Ulcerative Colitis/ success reports of people using it for this?

    1. Yes, you can take it orally in water. There is a bunch of evidence for BPC-157 and "gut issues" for sure!

      1. Joe says:

        Hi Ben,

        Thanks, yes I saw the pubmed etc articles on this aspect, but all I could find was animal/rat studies. So was just wondering if you had seen / came across any people (etc) posting about use/success with it for this?

        1. Aside from me posting about the use and success on myself in the article above, you could check out some different forums.

  206. Joe says:

    Ben,

    Does this Uk site & product/s seem ok?
    http://www.bac-water.com/bpc-157-5mg-highest-qual… http://www.bac-water.com/1-x-30-ml-hospira-bacter…

    Would it interact with olmetec Bp med, or other gastric meds?

    1. I can only vouch for the products listed in the article above!

      1. Joe says:

        Ben,

        Any idea how effect this is for Ulcerative Colitis/ sucess reports of poeple using it for this?

        Thanks

      2. Joe says:

        Ok I understand,

        Does this seem to be similar;

        Unit Size: 5 mg/vial

        CAS NO. 137525-51-0

        Molecular Formula: C62H98N16O22

        Molecular Weight: 1419.53552

        Sequence: Bpc 15, Bpc-157, Booly protection compound 15

        Appearance: White Powder

        Purity: 99.3%

  207. Would love to use this type of treatment for systemic scleroderma – an autoimmune disease. Any ideas on clinics, docs or naturopaths I could work with on this?

    1. I'm not aware of any doctors, but if you want to go into detail with me you can book a consult at <a href="https://greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/ben” target=”_blank”>www.greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/ben and choose 20 or 60 minutes and we'll get you scheduled to go over everything there.

  208. Stinson says:

    Hi Ben, I have a partially (2/3) torn pectoral muscle that I did 4 years ago. Everything is healed, but I have a large gap in muscle between my pec and my armpit/bicep. You can feel the scar tissue in the pec and it looks “droopy” as the muscle is balled up. Any idea if BCP-157 would work on a 4 year old injury like this one? Thanks

    1. Yes, even for scar tissue it can help!

  209. warren says:

    Hi Ben and all. Currently Peptide warehouse only accepts bitcoin . Could you suggest reliable source that may use more traditional payment methods thanks

    1. Michelle says:

      Hey Warren,

      You might try Blue Sky. I just got my first shipment and did my first injection last night!

  210. Richard says:

    BPC-157 – and various other peptides – are legal, with a prescription, in Australia.

  211. Eddie says:

    I think I’m missing something on the dosage. If you use 3ml to reconstitute, and each dose (8 ticks) is .08 ml that gives you a total of 37.5 doses. If there is 5mg (5000 mcg) of peptide total, dividing by 37.5 gives ~133 mcg per dose, not 250 mcg. What am I missing?

  212. Kendra Chase says:

    Thanks for this Ben. We have ordered some + are about to try on a broken/sprained toe. We will let you know our results. (Couldn’t afford x-ray, and seems treatment via physician is same either way-tape it, ice + rest). Hope this speeds up the process! Your podcast is my favorite!

  213. Jason jackson says:

    Hi Ben, do you know if it is important that bpc 157 needs to be administered on an empty stomach before bed as i read read?

  214. Johan says:

    Hi Ben

    I have a hurting elbow and a shoulder and don’t want to inject at these area.

    What do you think is the best way to go, orally or subq in stomach?

    Regards Johan

    1. I'd go orally or IDEALLY subcutaneously on the elbow or shoulder…

  215. John says:

    Ben, in this article you recommend 28g needle, in TB-500 30g. Potentially silly question, but since each peptide is different, is this critical or could one gauge or the other be suitable for both?

    Thanks so much.

    1. Needle gauge isn't too important. Obviously thicker hurts more but slight changes in gauge is not important. ;)

      1. TR says:

        Any thought about mixing this with DMSO to completely avoid the injection and apply directly over the site of injury?

        Cheers

        1. I have NOT seen anyone do that before. I'm not sure the peptide would be absorbed through the skin…

  216. Sarah says:

    Hey Ben, you’re a gift to us all! Thanks for everything! This might be a dumb question, but do you know whether or not this would show up on a drug test as a performance enhancing drug or something of that nature? It seems to be a pretty natural substance, but I just want to cover my bases. I tried to do some research separately to your article, but couldn’t find any concrete answers. If you already addressed this and my mind wandered past the answer, I apologize ahead of time. Thank you!

    1. Have a read through the article and you will find your answer..

  217. John says:

    Ben, would *LOVE* your input on a chronic pain issue!!!

    I have a herniated L5/S1 disc and have been receiving treatment from a DO for nearly 2 years now (everything from adjustments to cortisone shots, to prolotherapy to botox into the muscle). I’d like to give this a try too and have 2 questions:

    1) If you had this issue, are there any other things you would incorporate into a protocol to finally heal this?

    2) How would one inject for best helping the lower back? Aim for a muscle / skin near the spine or just take orally?

    THANK YOU!!

    1. 1) aside from everything in this article, you need to read this article on Core Foundation training: https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/2016/07/what-is-…

      2) If it were me, I’d inject subcutaneously if you DO decide to inject but honestly, from decompression to Foundation training to deep tissue work there is so much you can do beside this. If you want to go into detail feel free to book a consult at <a href="https://greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/ben” target=”_blank”> <a href="https://greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/ben” target=”_blank”>www.greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/ben and choose 20 or 60 minutes and we’ll go into detail.

  218. Lee says:

    Great forum, thanks. Read up on this, sounds terrific.

    Worked on rat burns. Do you think this could help heal poor/slow healing skin scars? Oral or sub? Thanks for all.

    1. Subcutaneously or orally, because oral is systemic, the research says that yes, it assist with connective tissue including skin.

  219. iTolyan says:

    I’m confused… This post was changed. Originally you had info on BlueSky Peptide and Missouri Medical Supplies.

    Why the change? Why were they removed?

    Thanks, just curious.

    1. Customer confusion. decided to simplify! Too many websites flyin' around!

  220. Neil Paterson says:

    Hi absolutely fantastic post as usual. Just ordered some BPC157 and BAC water. Ive never used anything like this before so wanted to just check a couple of points how much BAC do I add to the 5mg bottle of BPC is it 3x1ml syringes ie 3ml. Once mixed how much do I put in the syringe to get a 250mcg dose not sure what eight tick mark means? Keep up the good work
    Neil

    1. I would do 3x1ml syringes yep.

  221. Sal says:

    Good afternoon Ben, I’m in the Navy and would love to use such treatment for recovery while training. Are you aware of it being banned for military members or by the FDA? Thanks for your continued education, sir!

    1. You'll need to check with your military superiors on that one. I'm not aware of it being banned but check with them.

  222. Brian says:

    I was wondering if you had any info regarding how BPC 157 could be ruined by mixing the BAC to fast? When I reconstituted it I unintentionally had a stream come out directly into the powder for a couple seconds. So it my BPC 157 rendered useless? If that’s the case, even shaking the bottle would destroy the peptides, right?

    1. You'd have to hit it pretty hard to mess it up. I don't think you did from what it sounds like.

  223. Devin Wallace says:

    I’d like to clear up ALOT of bad information given here Ben. First off your BUD (Beyond Use Date) is WAY OFF! if you were preparing this in a sterile environment aka ISO-5 clean room these dates would be acceptable. But in you home the expiration would be 4 hours to 7 days max with some good aseptic technique and clean room material.

    If you prepare this drug in a non sterile environment you are putting yourself at risk of infection, serious diseases and potential death. Dont believe me…we have compounding pharmacies close every year for less than sterile compounding that kills and injures hundreds of people. New England Compounding Pharmacy ring a bell?

    You should not be using Bacterio-static water but SWFI. I’d HIGHLY advise putting the product in a new ziplock plastic bag after reconstitution and putting it in the fridge. Because moldy food spores on the rubber stopper of the vial.. no bueno. Sterilize the rubber stopper EVERY time you use it.

  224. Christian says:

    So I woke up with extreme back pain possibly spinal pain as well just pain all over my lower back. I couldn’t really bend down or when I stood straight up I lifted my left straight out and It felt like my lower back was being pulled apart, Do you think this product would be great for me?

    1. I'm not a doctor and nothing I say should be taken as medical advice. Yes, if it's ongoing pain, I would give it a try.

  225. jerry says:

    Hello..it’s been 4 weeks since rotar cuff surgery, and the injections fro the bpc157, still burn like crazy…anyone else have this problem?.

    thanks..

    1. Never had that issue at all! Make sure you are making it properly.

  226. AndrewO says:

    In the shelf on my refrigerator, my vial of BPC 157 got knocked onto its side when I shut the door. Do you think the peptide is ruined?

    1. Probably not unless it got jarred really heavily

  227. Alex says:

    Could this help cure or fight SIBO (undiagnosed, similar symptoms)?

    1. Not really. For that, I recently asked the smart folks at Thorne what they recommend if someone has the type of gas, bloating and constipation so common with SIBO

      Here was their reply:

      …the key component to the elemental diet is the use of free-form amino acids versus proteins – no matter how clean or pure that protein may be. This is because these free-form amino acids are more readily absorbed and utilized by the body than whole or intact protein, thereby putting less stress on the patient’s already compromised digestive system and minimizing the potential for adverse reaction.

      If you are interested in a possible Thorne option or alternative to the elemental diet, consider the following combination:

      · Amino Complex (recommend 2 scoops per serving): bengreenfieldfitness.com/thorneaminos

      · Thorne L-Glutamine (1.5 g of powder or capsule) – bengreenfieldfitness.com/thornel-glutamine

      · Thorne Multi (3 morning/3 evening) – bengreenfieldfitness.com/thornemulti

      Although not a perfect match, this particular combination of Thorne formulas offers a comparable nutrient profile to that found in the "elemental diet" recommended for SIBO. Dextrose, olive oil, and salt may be added as deemed appropriate in order to fully flesh out the elemental diet requirements…

  228. Alex says:

    Hi Ben

    Any potential cancer concerns with this one? Being that I’ve read it works by upregulating GH receptors (potentially also in tumours?)

    Cheers for your work mate

    1. Long-term use every day without stopping I could totally see that being a potential, yes. I wouldn't use it except during injuries or during growth phases for muscle or before hard workouts.

  229. Robert Sammut says:

    With regards the infamous experiment to evaluate the healing capabilities of BPC-157 as cited here below:

    “Thereby, we focus on Achilles tendon-to-bone healing: tendon to bone could not be healed spontaneously, but it was recovered by this peptide. After the rat’s Achilles tendon was sharply transected from calcaneal bone,agents were given alone or in combination [/kg body weight (b.w.) intraperitoneally, once time daily, first 30-min after surgery, last 24 h before analysis]. Tested at days 1, 4, 7, 10, 14, and 21 after Achilles detachment…”

    a) Can anyone confirm whether the tendon was transected across its entire width or was it only partially transected from its insertion on the calcaneal bone?

    b) In the above text reference is being made to surgery “first 30-min after surgery” Is this referring to the transection of the Achilles tendon or to a repair which followed the detachment of the Achilles tendon?

    Ultimately what I’m trying to establish is, can BPC-157 regenerate a tendon to the extent that a partial tear of the tendon from the bone resulting in a retraction can actually reattach without the need of surgery.

  230. Kay Bee Gee says:

    Hey Ben, I have have a upper back injury and the joints and muscles are stiff and painful. would it be safe to do a sub q injections close to the spine?

    1. Subcutaneous, yeah, that's fine. I should clarify the fact that I am *not* a physician and this is *not* to be interpreted as medical advice. Please talk to a licensed medical professional about all of this!

      1. I would like to buy BPC 157, but have been unable to complete an order as all the suppliers come back with an “unacceptable order” notice, including the site linked in this article. Is it no longer available?

  231. Jean Marc says:

    Btw I live in the UK bro, thanks :)

  232. Jean Marc says:

    Brilliant bro, very very informative and well detailed. I rate this. :). Btw I’m an athlete and I want to use bpc 157 for bone healing and tendon\ligament healing. Will it definitely heal my bones and no deformities? As well as tendons? Also is it banned in sports yet or not? Finally do I need a laboratory to buy and use this stuff or not? Thanks in advance for the awesome description it was really super helpful.

    1. All of this is answered in the article man! Read carefully again. ;) Not banned.

  233. SamanthaK says:

    You’re able to reach IM with only a 1/2 inch needle? I feel like anything less than 1 inch will merely be subcutaneous.

    1. I supposed it depends on subcutaneous fat thickness. I'm at 3% body fat so that helps. ;)

  234. Taylor says:

    Hi Ben,

    I’d like to buy a few bottles of BPC-157 & TB-500 for an emergency. How long will they keep in an unmixed state? You mentioned sticking them in the freezer. If outside of the freezer in a cool dark place are we talking a few years and in the freezer twice that?

    Thanks

  235. There'sa says:

    Is it crazy that it seems more effective when injected directly into the muscle rather than under the skin?

    1. Muscle has more blood!

    2. Chris says:

      so for the knee would trying to inject in the quad be more effective than sub-q as close to knee as possible?

      1. I'd go as close to knee as I could if it were me.

  236. Jeremy says:

    Hello Ben.

    Thanks for a great article.

    Is OK to keeping training while taking bpc? I’m taking for tendonitis from climbing.

    Thanks

  237. johnyx says:

    Hi.
    BPC 157 its good for CHRONIC tennis elbow? (4years prob)
    Actualy feel 50% better because i do rehab at home.

    Btw best post in my life
    Thanks.

  238. There'sa says:

    Can you reuse the syringe? Or do you have to use a new one each time?

    1. Use a new syringe each time and there is a link in the post to the company that I personally use to order my syringes.

  239. jerry says:

    Hello….I’m presently taking the bpc157, and the TB500, I had rotator surgery, have taken 4 injections, and I can’t believe how much it burned.Have you experienced anything like that?.

  240. Jason Frederick says:

    Am I able to take the top off bpc mix with regular water and use a dropper

    1. jen says:

      After you wipe area with alcohol, are you letting the alcohol dry on your skin 100% before injecting? If not it will burn. That happened to me a couple times.

  241. Kevin Defro says:

    I’ve been using the BPC for a couple weeks now at a frequency of 2x per day/250 mcg. I haven’t noticed any results yet and started to question the calculation of 8 tick marks on the insulin syringe. I went back to the peptide calculator and inputted a 5mg peptide vial, 3ml bacteriostatic water, and wanting a .25mg dose..the answer was 8 tick marks BUT that is on an insulin syringe with only 50 tick marks and each tick mark=2…so, on the syringes with 100 tick marks it is actually going to be double or 16 tick marks to yield a 250mcg dose!!!! I’m doubling up and hoping to get results….

  242. Bill Strahan says:

    Ben,

    I highly recommend getting some .3cc insulin syringes! It is MUCH easier to measure out a .1cc dose when that’s 1/3 the range on the syringe versus 1/10 the range like you were using! For subq in amounts .3cc and less I use a BD 31g 5/16″ .3cc syringe. Try them. They’re also small enough to put into a small eyeglasses case along with the alcohol swabs for an easy travel kit. The 1cc syringes were too long for the glasses case I had.

  243. John Kemmer says:

    Thank you for a very informative post.

    I have had 5 root canal teeth removed and have lost a lot of bone in the sockets.
    How would one use BPC to restore bone in the sockets? Would you just inject it right into the socket where the tooth used to be?
    My dentist suggested bone grafts but grafts are bad news as they cause an immune reaction.

    1. Tough question. This will require some personalized advice from me. If you want to go into detail book a consult at <a href="https://greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/ben” target=”_blank”>www.greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/ben and choose 20 or 60 minutes and we'll get you scheduled.

  244. Alex says:

    Does it matter where I inject the peptide since it all gets in my bloodstream? I got a cortisone shot in my posterior shoulder. But I am sore elsewhere in my arm. I am sub q injecting into my stomach. That should be okay right?

    1. Closest to sore spot is best, but it will act systemically wherever you "put it"…

  245. Omar says:

    Thanks for the post, super helpful guide!

    Any idea if BPC metabolites are detectable in urine? And if so, for how long after injection?

    Someone I know had a drug-free sport test today and although I don’t think its on the banned substance list, was wondering how detectable it is just in case.

    1. It's not really on the band list so it might be a moot point but yes, it is totally detectable in urine

  246. Nicholas says:

    Thanks for the article Ben! Have bookmarked this page for when (not if) I next get an overuse injury from all this cycling. I’ve been self-experimenting with some success and just wondering if you have done much looking-into dry needling as a form of injury recovery? And whether the presence of an inserted needle would have some part to play in healing (when you’ve used the intramuscular method)? As one of the proposed mechanisms for dry needling’s effectiveness is through connective tissue stretching – http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/artic…

    1. Jolaine says:

      My Physio uses dry needling on me and my whole cycling team for injuries. It works amazing. Better than anything I’ve tried. Although I’ve yet to try peptides. Super interested in this.

      1. Love to hear what you think when you do give them a try!

  247. Dan says:

    Ok Ben. Thanks. Started the TB 500 for my elbows. Got the 5mg of TB 500 and reconstituted it with 3 cc/ml. of water (3 syringes full) Just about filled the file. Now based on injecting just under .1 cc/ml or just under 10 (8) units for a dose of around 250. How long did that vial last you? Seems like there is a lot left and the amount injected is small. Is my dose and math right?

    1. If you go to <a href="https://greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/ben” target=”_blank”>www.greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/ben and choose 20 or 60 minutes we'll go over everything there!

  248. Robert Sammut says:

    You state that it is devoid of any side effects but what about its mode of action which is to promote healing by increasing angiogenesis? Granted the body as you stated can produce its own gastric juices in VERY SMALL AMOUNTS, to protect and heal the gastro intestinal tract but when you interfere with the body’s homeostasis by injecting an exogenous super concentrated version of it that’s when things can get nasty. It’s a scientific fact that cancer cells proliferate (i.e. grow quicker) when agiogenesis is increased and when myostatin increases. Since the method of injections you are suggesting all put this peptide directly into the blood stream systemic uptake is very high. The risk could be curtailed if the peptide were injected into the musculotendinous junction. I’d appreciate hearing your opinion

    1. Only issue is that no carcinogenic activity has been actually shown any models to date. That's not to say that I will deny that there could never be a study showing something like this could be theoretically possible, I just haven't seen it yet

  249. Ollie says:

    Can you please provide links to the studies done on humans? I’ve done a lot of searching a cannot find any human studies :(

    1. Follow the links above. You'll find plenty of research.

  250. Dan says:

    This couldn’t come at a better time for me… I am due to have a spinal fusion in the very near future & am curious as to whether this (or any other peptide formula’s; TM-500?) may be worth looking into. Your thoughts? Thank you for your time.

    1. I'm not a doctor and nothing I say should be taken as medical advice, but yes, I would suggest looking into it.

      1. Dan says:

        I appreciate your input. Considering the circumstances of my situation, my gut instinct from both from your article &, for lack of a better term, “common sense” tells me that sub-Q injections at/near the incision site/effected area would likely be a BAD idea… but according to the available information (various sources) sub-Q would still likely be the most effective in regards to accelerating the healing of connective tissues/bone/ligaments. 1) What would be your thoughts considering sub-Q injections at the “general area” (i.e. opposite sides of incision; the “lovehandle” region) instead? 2) Vice sub-Q intake, how much more/less effective do you think oral administration of suggested peptides possibly be? I understand your liability disclosure, & again, greatly appreciate your time/thoughts. Cheers.

        1. Best to book a consult for us to go over this. Go to <a href="https://greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/ben” target=”_blank”>www.greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/ben and choose 20 or 60 minutes and we'll get you scheduled.

  251. Mike says:

    Hello Ben,

    I have been using BPC for a tendon issue, has helped wonderfully. I am very much into heavy lifting and hockey, could BPC be used for recovery from lifting and intense sport play?

    Thank you for your time and help.

    Mike

    1. I am not a doctor and nothing I say should be taken as medical advice, but yes, its worth trying!

  252. Denise says:

    Hi,

    I just purchased BPC-157. The exact amounts posted in article; except for syringe (I bought a 30ga X 5/16)

    The only issue I’m having is dosage. I’m 112 lbs. I’m going to treat tennis elbow on right arm. I’m not quite clear on the caluculations. I’m confused because there’s several different metric measurements (cc, ml, mg, mcg) mentioned in the article. Is one full syringe (1 cc) a total of 100mcg?

    If not how many mcg’s are in one full syringe?

    1. HI Denise, best to book a consult for this and we can go over it there. Go to <a href="https://greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/ben” target=”_blank”>www.greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/ben and choose 20 minutes and I'll talk you through everything.

  253. Mike says:

    Ben,

    I’m a firefighter with horrible plantar fasciitis. I really do not like the thought of injecting into the bottom of my foot. What’s your recommendation as a knowledgeable, yet not a doctor, person who is experienced with peptides?

    1. Kyle says:

      The bottom of the foot would be sensitive. Maybe pinch the top of the foot and inject there. As close to the area as possible. It is orally active as well, would probably take longer. Please let us know your results.

    2. You could use this orally, and then listen to this episode: https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/2016/02/26435/

  254. Jason says:

    I have doctor who has done something very similar to this, called prolotherapy. It works awesome, now I am tempted to do it myself and save the trip! Thanks for the post????

  255. Michelle says:

    Hi Ben!

    I’ve used BPC for a shoulder injury / ac sprain and it helped. I am getting a fat transfer surgery and liposuction – and I was wondering about BPC helping the healing of the swelling from something like this, and just basically speeding up healing from that kind of trauma to the body. I know you are not a doctor – but I was wondering in your non -doctor opinion when would be best / safest / basically the best time to start using it after a surgery? I know this is essentially just amino acids that our body already produces – but I just don’t know if taking it 2 days after this surgery will harm me in any way – and the pain / bruising and swelling is intense.

    Thank you for such a good article :)

    1. I'm not a doctor and nothing I say should be taking as medical advice. Yes, BPC has been shown to accelerate tissue healing, so worth a try. For nitty-gritty details book a consult at <a href="https://greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/ben” target=”_blank”>www.greenfieldfitnesssystems.com/ben and choose 20 or 60 minutes and we'll get you scheduled.

  256. David says:

    Thanks Ben for a great article. I’d like to share my experience BPC. I suffered from an lower groin, inside quad injury for 9 months. A deep tendon next to a nerve that caused no end in pain, soreness and nerve sensitivity. (From over exerting kicking a soccer ball playing with my son). Additionally I had a nagging hamstring (same leg). After reading Ben’s article I decided to give BPC a shot. I administered BPC once a day for both hamstring and groin. After a week I noticed a significant improvement. Previously, slightly noticeable improvements would take *months*…and now after a week, I could do lunges and elliptical with only a hint of soreness. It was quite amazing!!! I continued for 2 more weeks. Now, a month later I am at 110%. Sprinting (faster than ever) pain free, working out aggressively with heavy squats, box jumps, weighted lunges. It’s almost miraculous how quickly and thoroughly I’ve healed. What was the most frustrating part of the whole experience was that I am very paleo-oriented. Very healthy diet with good fats, tons of veggies, broth, etc. I rested for 2 months (no activity at all), which was very difficult since I worked out 3 to 4 times a week. But experienced almost no healing. It was tortuously slow going. It was really affecting my mood and outlook. I wondered if I would ever be able to continue running or any kind of aerobic/HIIT style workouts. Ben’s article couldn’t have come at a better time. I was really hitting rock bottom thinking these injuries would never heal. Thank you Ben!!! BPC really made a huge difference for me! (Note: I’m 45, fit, 10 – 12% body fat, 5’9″ 168lbs). Keep up the great work. I love your podcast. Totally hooked!! (Also a big fan of your CBD product!!)

  257. Vic M D says:

    Ben I ordered some bpc157 because I am having proximal fibular pain from squats. It doesn’t hurt when I squat, but is tender the next couple days after. With squatting 3x/week that means it is always sore. I’m hoping this will clear up the issue before I go to Squat Camp in late July… thanks for your good article.

  258. Seagull says:

    Dear, i will take bpc orally, but I dont have bacteriostatic water,could I use NaCL ? I have problem with sphinters and damaged egsophagus. Any suggestions ? How many days to treat and quantity per day? I Received 2 bottles of 5mg powder bpc.

    1. Get bacteriostatic water. That's your answer. For days to treat and quantity…read the article!

  259. Peter says:

    Hi Ben, very timely article for me.

    Are there any food restrictions before or after injections as required for some other peptides?

  260. ALFREDO says:

    Hey Ben,

    Great article…. quick question, if we are afraid of needles do you know of any place where we can get the injection?

    1. No, this is typically all self-administered…

  261. Aj says:

    I would like to ask you some questions about this peptide . Do you have a email or I will pay you to speak with me via telephone. Thanks

    1. Sure. Feel free to book a consult at bengreenfieldfitness.com/coaching and choose 20 or 60 mins and we'll get you scheduled.

  262. Lo says:

    Hi, Ben! Great article! I was wondering what the use and administration you would suggest for wrist tendinitis or De Quervain’s tenosynovitis. I only ask because there isn’t a lot of subQ tissue in the area.

    1. I would still go Sub Q. Plenty of skin in there to go after. You don't need much.

  263. Adrian Clarke says:

    Thanks Ben….I’ll try what you said and thanks for the link

  264. Adrian Clarke says:

    Hi Ben…my 5mg BPC arrived today. I have added 2ml of bact water. To take orally for 250mcg do I just put 0.1 solution from the insulin pin gauge under my tounge? I’ve been advised to take this orally to help with my ulcerative colitis condition. It just seem a tiny amount considering where my problem lies. Was thinking of injecting it in the stomach area so it nearer the problem area. Have I got this right or have I missed something? Thanks Ade

    1. I should begin by clarifying the fact that I am *not* a physician and this is *not* to be interpreted as medical advice. Please talk to a licensed medical professional about all of this!

      You don't need much. And yes, you can slowly put it straight into mouth: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24304574

    2. Frank says:

      Hi Adrian,

      I have Ulcerative colitis as well is there any way we can talk or email each other ?

      my email is francodiveneregmail.com

      or 323-243-7135

      Tks

      Frank

  265. Zach says:

    All the studies I have read say that 10iu/kg was the dose for rats. Did you find anything suggesting dose for humans? More specifically for healing of tendons and injury, more so than gastric stuff. Rat’s metabolism is different than humans and usually there is a rate for conversion of doses. I couldn’t find anything about what the human dose should be.

    Did I miss a link in your article?

    1. Zach says:

      this being the best one I have found so far

      http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jor.20…

    2. Around 250-800mcg for humans in most conversion of dosages.

  266. Jeffrey says:

    To clarify to others that may use the recommended materials you listed, you will not go to the 8th tick on the syringe but rather the 15th. These particular syringes tick marks each qual an IU. Therefore 15 ticks would be 15 IUs and the 250 MCG dose desired when using 3 ML of Bacteriostatic water.

    Another suggestion is just using 2ML of Bacteriostatic water (two full syringes instead of three as Ben suggested) and drawing exactly to the “10” mark on the syringe which would give you 250 MCG. Using such a large syringe it may be easier to dose properly to the 10 IU and not halfway between 10 and 20 IUs.

  267. Andrew says:

    Ben. Is there any way you can tell if the product (liquid or powder) has degraded at all?

    When I received the vials the powder was not free flowing in vial – but it did reconstitute ok when water was added.

    Thanks

  268. Andrew says:

    Ben. Is there any way you can tell if the product (liquid or powder) has degraded at all?

    When I received the vials the powder was not free flowing in vial – but it did reconstitute ok when water was added.

    Thanks.

    1. No. It's really hard to tell whether or not it has degraded but if it reconstituted just fine you are probably okay.

  269. Kevin Brown says:

    Ben,

    This article was very timely! I woke up one morning about seven months ago with a super annoying sore shoulder that only hurt in certain positions. It made it impossible for me to bench normally and to do many other pressing movements that involved shoulders. I also had some gut issues and minor hemorrhoid problems. After I read the article I figured I had nothing to lose and acquired two vials of BPC-157. I cringed at thought of using syringes but I just followed the tips here. I decided to administer 250 mcg intramuscularly in the deltoid of my bad shoulder and 250 mcg orally daily. In the first 4 days my gut seemed to have returned to being cast iron. I no longer have problems with foods that were causing me distress. Less gas and almost no annoying problems that come with hemorrhoids almost no blood when wiping and just a totally calm gut and normal output. At the end of the 2nd week my shoulder pain has diminished greatly! I can move my shoulder in almost any direction and the sharp pain is gone. It also seems that I sleep much better now! I am not going to jump back heavy into the gym yet. I am going to finish the vial first then gradually get back into training. Thanks for this info! I have been suffering with shoulder pain for months and this peptide knocked it down in two weeks! You are the man!

  270. Scott says:

    Ben:

    I’ve taken this for my rotator cuff injury. Partial torn subscapularis tendon into intramuscular area. I took it exactly the way you mentioned, with exact syringe. I purchased the peptide from an extremely popular and reputable peptide site. I injected it in my shoulder at 200mcg per day ( to start conservative) and I swear the very next day, inside paid which I felt at the ball and socket area was 50 percent gone…coincidental or did it it work, dunno, however!! by the 4th injection (4th day), which was around 2pm everyday, I was watching Youtube hours later and i started experiencing cold sweats, heart racing, numbness in my left arm and back of the neck. Difficulty breathing and complete body fatigue to wear if I stood up I would shake and feel like I was going to pass out. I was freaking out like….I am I having a heart attack? I had to call an ambulance. They drew blood and nothing came back as a heart attack. Dr’s didn’t know anything, but pumped me with IV and released me 2 hours later after my heart quit beating extremely fast and calmed down…..Now I’m freaked out to take this stuff. I’m 33yrs old and never experienced anything like this in my entire life. I swear I thought i was going to die. I was extremely weak and when i tried walking i saw blurred vision. It was a very scary feeling. Needless to say I discontinued……Only thing I could think of was this stuff. After discontinuing (its been about 8 months) I’ve been fine…..I think I’m the only one to report an issue with this stuff so far. I came across this site recently (6/7/2016). This info was not available. I got my info on BPC-157 and how to take it etc….from bodybuilding sites on the internet and other related websites that had postings on this stuff from people who have tried it, so that’s how I selected the amount and size needle, where to purchase etc… Just thought I’d share my experience…..

    my rotator cuff i’d say is 90 percent healed just from over time….I guess the thoughts of trying it again did cross my mind, but I am fearful of those symptoms as previously mentioned, or if it was just coincidental. I just don’t know, but do not want to take the chance. Like I said, I’m 33 and I made it this far having never experienced anything like that in my life….just odd to me……

    Any feedback on this would be appreciated, but I also wanted to share this for others sake. I have heard of instances where high school kids of college athletes taking stuff and dying, maybe I got lucky that night and pulled through, maybe others weren’t so lucky….Who knows if the product you are getting , is what you are truly getting. I hear it comes from China akso then these peptide companies just sell it marked up. Something to think about as well.

    1. Miguel says:

      I’d love to know where you got it from. I’m getting my order this week from the preferred site noted here and I know one other that got it from the same source and they didn’t have any issues. This story does freak me out, but glad you’re ok now.

    2. Aj says:

      Could it be a anxiety / panic attack? If it was a adverse reaction you likely would of had it the first time or second time using.

  271. Bob says:

    Ipamorelin???? what are your thoughts?

    1. stay tuned. working on a "peptides" podcast to be released soon!

  272. Jim Milani says:

    Used orally, does it matter if we eat immediately before or after taking? Or, coffee ingestion (hot or cold)?

    1. There does not appear to be any contraindication with eating!

  273. robbie says:

    Ben, I read your article and all the ones I could get my hands on and after much deliberation decided to give this a try to help recovery after a SLAP tear and supraspinatus rotator cuff repair. It has a bite to it that I wasn’t expecting. Is it normal for the intense burn during an IM and/or sub q injection ?

    1. No, that is not normal. Perhaps you reconstituted too strongly.

  274. Matt says:

    Hey Ben,

    Just ordered some bpc 157myself for some nagging injuries. Would you happen to know if this compound would affect a vasectomy. Since it’s such a powerful healing agent what is the likelihood of this growing new vessels around that area? This maybe a dumb question and maybe my science is way off. But that would be tragic.

    Thanks

    1. I have seen ZERO RESEARCH on BPC effect on vasectomy, so this would all be "blue sky"…

  275. Adrian Clarke says:

    How would I best take this for ulcerative colitis. I’ve tried to Google the answer but can’t find how?

    1. Oral for that. Simply straight into mouth and you can use syringe for that.

    2. That would be oral administration.

  276. Andrew says:

    Ben

    If multiple bottles are purchased – would you suggest freezing it as a powder in the bottle, or reconstituting as a liquid first?

    Does it matter?

    1. Andrew says:

      To give maximums longevity to the product…….

  277. Adrian Clarke says:

    I have u lcerative colitis and I have heard this has worked fantantastic for their IBD. One question…how would I be best administrating it. Sub inj around stomach?

    Thanks

  278. Gregory Gudson says:

    Can you order this for oral use or how do you prep it for oral use?

    1. You can order it for oral use..

  279. Jim Milani says:

    Recently failed on a heavy clean. Left elbow smacked off my left quad which resulted in a quick, forceful hyper extension of my wrist and immediate ‘snap”/tear sensation. Thought I might have fx my scaphoid but did not. After a 6 week lay off from “pushing” movements, which I am back to all activities but I still have pain into the palm below my thumb/base of my thumb when ever I am in a front rack position. Also have slight discomfort there with wrist flex and ext. Would you think it is too late to try sub-q at base of thumb this far out from injury? I am thinking what the heck. Would the oral route be an option to impact gut and the wrist issue at the same time?

    1. Yep, you could do both. I should begin by clarifying the fact that I am *not* a physician and this is *not* to be interpreted as medical advice. Please talk to a licensed medical professional about all of this! don't exceed 800mcg/day.

  280. philippec says:

    hi

    how long before you felt any effect from this stuff?

    I’m on the 4th day of treatment for my knee I hurted last year and hunted again in april.

    Was it progressive or all of a sudden?

    thanks

  281. Bob says:

    Ben, if i am using a 1/2 cc insulin syringe, following the bac/bpc ratio you suggested, how much should i be using….too many cooks in the kitchen, so could you suggest the correct amount to get to the 250 mcg…i want to use it in 3 different spots

    1. I cannot emphasize enough that you MUST USE THE PEPTIDE CALCULATOR I LINKED TO. I wish I had time to do the personal math for everyone!

  282. Tim says:

    Ben very cool article.

    I’ve actually been curious about peptides (ipamorelin /sermorelin – for healing/regenerating/sleep issues) for some time but was on the fence because every online place I couldn’t tell what the validity was.

    That said 1. Are you totally comfortable with the products from the peptide companies you referenced &, 2. Have you looked into benefits/efficacy or used any other peptides experimentally?

    Thanks for help

    1. Working on a big podcast about peptides so stay tuned…

  283. Leon Fairbanks says:

    Just a couple of typos: you say bottle is 30ml, it is 3ml. To compute how much volume is needed for 250mcg, use equation

    3ml/5mg = x/.250mg => x = .15ml

    or,

    300units/5mg= x/.250 => x = 15units

    If you use 8 units, you to see how much drug you are getting, solve for y: 5/300 = y/8 => y = 0.133mg = 133mcg.

    Leon

    1. are you referring to the bacteriostatic water? If so, it is indeed 30ml. So 30ml/5mg would be your calculation…use the peptide calculator I linked to above!

      1. Leon Fairbanks says:

        You are not adding the 5mg to the bottle of bacteriostatic water. It is mixing with 3 ml water. The calculation should use 3ml/5mg. The equations are pretty clear.

        1. Leon Fairbanks says:

          First, yes I see you say 30ml BAC, that’s my error. But we do want 3ml/5mg. I just looked at the online calculator and I see the source of my confusion. There are 2 ticks per unit. So, you and I are in agreement, 8 ticks=16 units. But your statement “(**not the .8cc mark, but the eight tick mark, which is going to be two ticks before the .1cc mark on the syringe)” is incorrect, 8 ticks takes you out to 16 units = .16ml.

          Read more https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/2016/05/how-to-u…

          1. Leon Fairbanks says:

            Again I mixed it up: 2 units per tick, so 8 ticks= 16 units = 1.6 ml. Oh boy!

      2. Jose says:

        Hey Ben!

        First off, thanks for all the great info. Really love the podcast and articles! However, I have to say that I agree with Leon. Although the bottle of BAC contains 30 ml, your instructions state to “fill three insulin syringes full of water” into the BPC vial. Each syringe is 1cc=1ml, therefore you are only dissolving the peptide into 3 ml of BAC.

    2. Ryan says:

      Leon,

      I was getting the same result. 15 units = .15 ml = 250 mcg.

      Right?

      1. Leon Fairbanks says:

        Yes, I agree. Just delete “which is going to be two ticks before the .1cc mark on the syringe”, that would be 8 units.

        Read more https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/2016/05/how-to-u…

  284. Ryan says:

    Thanks for this.

    Sorry, just to clarify: 8 ticks of 1cc feels like almost nothing in my mouth. We are talking tiny amounts right?

    (Also it’s hard to imagine the peptides not getting damaged when colliding with my mouth, no matter how slowly I press. :/ )

    1. extremely tiny amounts.

  285. Graham Loft says:

    Awe man I got the ” I am not a physician ” reply! We all know that at this point but it is just damn interesting and you being the ginny pig we all wanna know how to heal up fast.

    Well I ordered all the stuff and gonna give it a whirl. Maybe send me a winky face if you care to hear how it works.

    Cheers, G

  286. Graham Loft says:

    Hi Ben,

    Partially tore my antierior and interior ankle ligaments as well as a lesion (cartilage chip ) of my Talar Dome. Very painful but no surgery required. Currently rocking the BOOT and podiatrist suggest Prolo injections. They are however extremely costly and not covered by insurance. Curious if you think I might be able to rapidly heal these ligaments at least with these peptide injections? Since not much fat on my ankle would the injection just go to fattiest area on my ankle?

    Thanks Graham

    1. I am *not* a physician and this is *not* to be interpreted as medical advice. It's worth a try, but please talk to a licensed medical professional about all of this!

  287. Adrienne says:

    Ben,

    Thanks for putting up the new links for ordering the insulin syringes, Bacteriostatic water etc.

  288. todd taskerudq says:

    would this work in a DSMO solution and used around ankle injury and chronic knee problem or would injections be the only effective delivery?

    1. I would not use it with DMSO. I would keep it separate.

  289. Tamara says:

    Hi Ben. Thanks for this. how does this rate against glutamine for healing your gut? I a following aip but not seeing results just yet so looking to expedite healing.

    1. Totally different. Night and day. You could probably use both.

  290. Tessa says:

    What happens if you aren’t careful enough in handling and reconstituting it??

  291. Greg says:

    So, could this be used to decrease recovery time following a very hard workout?

    1. Theoretically yes although no studies have been done on that particular method.

  292. Snowman says:

    Thank you Ben. I have Complex Regional Pain Sydrome/ Reflex sympathetic dystrophy secondary to a botched foot surgery. I get some painful times. There is a variety conventional treatments but few with the idea of staying active. None that I have found signal the brain to repair and restore. They include pain killers and nerve blocks. That’s not an option for me. I’m a husband, father of 2 brilliant boys,a 20 year Firefighter in a busy city, and a Swat medic. I have allot of responsibility to be my best. I charge hard and if this helps me stay at it with less real pain …, I’ll owe you big. Thanks for the hope.

    1. Todd says:

      Try PRP/stem cells to heal ur CRPS at the source

  293. Sean Reid says:

    Hey Ben! You mention using TB-500 for bone issues, would you use the same procedure for making the solution? Thanks!

  294. Eric Estes says:

    Hey Ben, is it possible to get it in capsule form?

  295. Dylan says:

    This is great, appreciate the candid post on use and this stuff. Thks

  296. Terrence says:

    I’d also like to know the answer to this. I don’t have any acute injuries right now but I have pretty limited range of motion in some old scar tissue injuries.

  297. Marin Pastar says:

    Thanks for all your research, self-testing, and great posts. Just ordered all the “supplies” per your article and eager to get it started.

    Question about dosing (I know, I know, you’re not a doctor :). I have 3 areas of “interest” crunchy wrist that will not heal which makes it difficult to do pushups and yoga (not even sure how it got aggravated), and tendonitis in top of both knee caps (I think) after getting started on KickBoxing (thinking I would give myself a “break” after years of IM and IM70.3 training and competing). Worthy to note I spent the last 2 years idling a bit with a horrible case of PF after limping thru 2014 IM70.3 Texas. It would be safe to say all these injuries are “comeback” related.

    RE: Dosage. If I am treating all areas at the same time, should I split up the “recommended” daily dosage in 3 parts, or treat each area with a daily recommended dose? Currenly weigh around 210lbs (put on a bit of muscle and a little extra fluff in the last 2 years without endurance training). 34yrs old. Ready to start competing again and VERY frustrated!

    Thanks again for everything!

    1. I am not a doctor and nothing I say should be taken as medical advice. It's worth a try on those areas, if you want to go into detail feel free to book a consult at bengreenfieldfitness.com/coaching and choose 20 or 60 mins and we'll get you scheduled. In terms of dosage, if you are treating all three areas at a time I don't based on current research recommend injecting any more than a total of 700mcg per day across all sites.

  298. Jon-Boy says:

    Ben,

    I had been pondering taking peptides for the same type of tissue and joint aches for a long while; but was completely unsure of the protocol, which peptide to take, etc. Thank you so much for posting this protocol, temp ranges, and how careful to be. Info like this is a bear to find.

    Thanks again!

  299. Jenny says:

    I have a calf injury which is preventing me from running. I believe there may be a small tear in the belly of my inner calf muscle. Do you think injections of BPC-157 could be worth trying for this? Would you try it on yourself for this issue. If not, what else do you recommend? Thank you.

    1. Todd Holubitsky says:

      After reading over, I think you meant 250mcg per syringe as you stated?

      Is this correct?

      Tyou!!

      1. Yes, 250mcg is standard dosage usually. Is there somewhere above where there is a typo? If so, let me know and I can fix!

    2. I am *not* a physician and this is *not* to be interpreted as medical advice. Please talk to a licensed medical professional about all of this! I would it say it is worth a try and if you want to go into detail book a consult at bengreenfieldfitness.com/coaching and choose 20 or 60 mins and we'll get you scheduled.

  300. Todd Holubitsky says:

    One question on your oral dosing. So you basically created a vial of one dose of 250mcg which was 3 ml of water into product? So roughly 35-50 dollars a dose for 7 days?Thank You

    1. Tom H. says:

      A 5mg vial of BPC-157 yields 20 250mcg doses. So about $2.25/dose.

  301. Hi Ben, I have a disc bulge between l5 and (supernumerary vertebrae) S1 and I don’t feel my muscles on the left side. Will BPC help me heal if I use it intramuscularly?

    1. I am *not* a physician and this is *not* to be interpreted as medical advice. Please talk to a licensed medical professional about all of this! I would it say it is worth a try and if you want to go into detail book a consult at bengreenfieldfitness.com/coaching and choose 20 or 60 mins and we'll get you schedule.

  302. Todd Holubitsky says:

    Would love to hear a podcast on a variety of peptide treatment.

    Thanks!

  303. Rich says:

    Hey Ben,

    Thanks for all the research you do and for being my GO TO source for anything I’m unsure of. I had played college basketball and had what the trainers told me was tendonitis in my knee for years. The only priscription given was ‘ice”. Now 7 years later the knee still bothers me. Would you try BPC 157 for this? Secondly, would it also help with bursitis? Thanks again!

    1. I am *not* a physician and this is *not* to be interpreted as medical advice. Please talk to a licensed medical professional about all of this! I would it say it is worth a try and if you want to go into detail book a consult at bengreenfieldfitness.com/coaching and choose 20 or 60 mins and we'll get you schedule.

  304. Stanislav Vinokur says:

    Hey Ben,

    So you did mention an achilles study. I’ve had a very nagging achilles/plantar foot pain. What would be a good area to inject?

    1. Subcutaneously around the joint is the way that I would do it

  305. Vince says:

    I’m getting ready to have hernia surgery. Do you think this would be good for to aid in recovery? I’d been trying to get back into shape before this work related injury happened and now I’m trying to make sure that I heal up so I can actually start working out.

    1. I am *not* a physician and this is *not* to be interpreted as medical advice. It's worth a try, but please talk to a licensed medical professional about all of this!

  306. Bill says:

    I wonder if this would work for a herniated disc, or overall nerve damage?

    I would pop some into my knee too.

  307. Chad says:

    Have you heard or do you believe this would help Planter Fasciitis? And if so, SubQ the route to go?

  308. olga says:

    Hi Ben, would taking this orally have any effect on knee or any other muscle/joint injury or injecting in the specific area the only way? Thank you.

    1. Yes, as I mention in article, there is some systemic effect.

  309. Brendan Ruh says:

    Been running it for 6 days now.

    Putting it into deltoid area and subq into abdomen.

    Lower back feels great, knees feel great….
    Shoulder and neck area is still tight which leads me to believe that BPC 157 helps a lot with inflammation and tendon health but wont make up for possible poor movement patterns (too much sitting at work etc)

    Ben, have you looked into tb500? Please do, I would love to hear your opinion on it.

    If anyone wants advice on how to use BPC 157 step by step feel free to contact me.

    1. Louise says:

      Hi Brendan, I am terrified of needles but am desperate at this point. I work in film in the props department and my last job completely kicked my ass. I’m 40 but I look 27 and, in my mind am 17, so I am expected to perform according to the shape my body appears to be in and I react to stress with adrenalin and suffer later. My prop truck has a gate which we are supposed to raise and lower using a lift mechanism, however I kept it raised half way and proceeded to climb up and into the truck and jump down it about 100x’s per day and then sprint to set with the needed props and back again for a little over a month straight. I am now basically crippled and unable to return to work. I survived this escapade on a combination of pain meds, kratom and a 5 minute Espom salt bath every morning to get my moving after about 3-4 hours of sleep. It was cold, damp weather and the worst conditions you can imagine. I used to eat healthy and go to yoga but I lost so much weight on this job that I started binging on any food that the craft service women made for me and binging on sugar and soda like everyone else; these jobs make you self-destructive. Everyone was concerned with my weight loss and my metabolism was moving incredibly fast, probably due to the running. I also know my teeth are suffering so I’d like any suggestions on how to repair them without getting a mouth full of implants that I can’t afford. Please contact me directly via email.

      1. Brendan Ruh says:

        Hey Louise,

        I can definitely help you. Please visit my website (link below) and click “about/contact/pricing” my email address is on there, send me an email and well talk.

        https://scfunctionalfitness.squarespace.com/

    2. Imad says:

      Do you have a Twitter? Or something? Let’s talk. Thanks

      1. Yes – @BenGreenfield

  310. Brian says:

    Hi Ben,

    Any benefit for resolving scar tissue around an old injury?

  311. Brian says:

    Hi Ben,

    Any benefit for resolving scar tissue around an old injury?

    1. Healing in general, yep.

  312. mike says:

    Just to be clear. 3cc of BW to reconstitute?

    1. Yeah, for a 5mg bottle if you want to use the bottle.

  313. Greg says:

    What are your thoughts on administering for a torn meniscus please? Not much of an area to inject…thank you

    1. Totally worth a try. Read the other comments.

  314. Taylor says:

    Hi Ben,

    Fantastic man. I’ve been on the fence with this stuff for months. I too have minor hami and elbow issues I’ve been wanting to remedy with this compound. I’m not a fan of needles and am terrified of injecting myself with an air bubble…but from what I’ve seen it appears just being extra observant will avoid this very unlikely occurrence LOL. There are tons of videos showing every detail of the process. Is there any reason you went with a powdered form over the many liquid options available? I found this one: cemproducts.com/bpc-157-5mg.html

    Also…How about a trans-dermal application mixing with DMSO? Would it absorb deeply enough to have any impact?

    Thanks Dr. Ben! ….JUST KIDDING! lol

    1. Read the article carefully. You must purchase in powder form and reconstitute.

  315. Mike says:

    Ben,
    Looks like an alternative to PRP…. Would you go SubQ for Achilles tendon issue?

    1. I would if it were me

  316. laphroaig says:

    Hi, i have wrist surgery (scaphoid nonunion – bone graft), everything went well. So i’m after removing cast took nandrolone for 2 month, it help a lot but not 100%.

    I want to remove stiffness, and gain range of motion back. After nandrolone i’m able to do push up!

    I apply BPC 157 in combination with tb 500th now for week.

    Subjectively, feel less pain, less crunching in the wrist, no gain in range of motion, i have still about 70%.

    My protocol is:

    BPC-157 300mcg daily (in wrist)
    TB-500 2000mcg 2 times a week (belly)

    I am considering buying PAL GHK and dosage 300 mcg daily.

    Do you think this is a good choice/protocol?

    1. I’m not a doctor but this looks solid

  317. jj says:

    Hi Ben!

    timely post – I’ve had a purple ‘band’ at my outer pectoral for years now, sis in law (a physician) thinks its a small tear…

    question – I know injecting directly of course would be the best option – but alas my missus is freaking out over this concept… did/would the oral route help in a way that is BEYOND the gut? meaning systemic benefits, trying to use for a work around to get to my pec….

    1. Possibly. Worth a try in my book.

  318. Steve Lewis says:

    I’ve had a shoulder cuff injury from skiing that has been very slow to heal-almost two years and I still feel a little irritation.
    Would this be a good method for an old injury?

    1. I’d try it if it were me

  319. Meg says:

    For persistent rotator cuff inflammation… inject directly into the troubled supraspinatus muscle? Or into the joint capsule? Or just subcutaneous? Thanks a bunch.

    1. Whichever method get you as close to the injury as possible

  320. David Doherty says:

    Hi Ben,
    Thx for covering ‘advanced peptides’ , have number serious autoimmune issues and trying everything but Nootropics and peptides seem to hold keys for cognition and biochem reactions.
    Love to hear of any experiments you do with ‘advanced peptides’ such as DSIP (Delta Sleep Inducing Peptide),
    ALCAR,Trioxy (ITPP) and a number of others all look very promising with minimal if any side effects when used like you describe above,
    Love hear any experience with any ‘experiments’
    There are a number I have been researching for a few years I would love to ‘experiment’ with and great to see N=1 experiments about BPC-157 and feel these peptides hold great promise in all disease states from their use in athletes/injured.
    Best Wishes,
    David

    1. I’ll do a more comprehensive podcast on this soon

  321. Travis Baird says:

    Thanks for the reply, when you “Just come in at an angle. ” for the Sub Q injection, what part of the elbow are you injecting in?

    1. Directly over area of pain

  322. Megan says:

    Would this help if I’m having immune system issues with training?

    1. Melissa says:

      for immune system, would you take orally, if not- where do you inject?

      1. For general immunity, I'd just go oral route.

      2. Greg says:

        For the oral route is there a way to reconstitute the peptide without the special water and without syringes?

        1. Nope. Follow instructions in the article!

  323. Dennis Mowry says:

    If it’s that fragile wouldn’t shipping destroy most of it before being able to use it?

    1. No it's shipped in bubble wrap/tightly packed.

  324. Ryan says:

    How about for shoulder AC joint issues? Or some achy knees?

    1. Yes and yes. Read the article. ;)

  325. Travis Baird says:

    Thanks for the post! I have been dealing with recurring Golfers elbow for over a year. How do you manage SubQ in elbow area on yourself? Dont you have to pinch an area to do it? I am out of hands for the syringe. Would an intramuscular injection in the upper arm work for golfers elbow?

    1. Just come in at an angle. Works fine. SubQ better than intramuscular for that.

  326. mike says:

    Ben,

    I am interested in trying it for gut issues, Where in my gut do I inject it?

    1. Take orally. I should begin by clarifying the fact that I am *not* a physician and this is *not* to be interpreted as medical advice. Please talk to a licensed medical professional about all of this!

  327. Brian says:

    Do you think this would be helpful for a mortons neuroma? If so would you recommend subq or injecting right into the webspace?

    1. Worth a try…I go subQ around area. I am *not* a physician and this is *not* to be interpreted as medical advice. Please talk to a licensed medical professional about all of this!

  328. Walt Settlemyre says:

    Awesome and timely post! I have a recent knee injury from Jiu Jitsu and I’m curious to try this protocol! I work in the medical field and I believe the Sub-q method makes sense, especially in my case with the knee. I’ll let you know my results! Thanks again!

    1. Jacks says:

      Walt, any results? Did it work on your knee?

  329. Gary Patterson says:

    I have a hamstring that’s been nagging me for years. So you say just inject into the tissue for that or subc ?

    1. I did intramuscular for my hammie.

  330. Jeff says:

    Ben – awesome stuff. thanks for sharing. if we’re interested in doing the oral ingestion instead would you recommend sterile water or still the BAC water? a bit of benzyl alcohol in that one. just inject directly with the syringe once reconstituted?

    1. Anything safe to inject is generally safe to ingest. It's a very small amount and I took orally.

  331. Jacob Juul Christiansen says:

    For those competing in UCI sanctioned races should be aware of this http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-approves-no-n…

    1. I believe that even for this it may be a certain "volume" amount, like 20-40ml. Will need to do some digging.

  332. Luis Aicardi says:

    Could BPC-157 work to heal a repetitive rotator cuff injury?

    Thanks Ben, wonderful article.

    1. Yes. That would be considered soft tissue.

  333. David says:

    Very interesting Ben. Can BPC-157 be used to treat cartilage damage or arthritis? I have been searching for an alternative to surgery for my hallux rigidus.

    1. Less research on cartilage but short answer is: worth trying.

  334. Stephen McGann says:

    So cool to see you covering peptides! My left shin had be stress fractured twice from sever shin splints. I used to be able to run off road and on the treadmill with out pain but now I can’t run at all on it. I wonder how to best use this peptide to see if I can resolve this nagging issue? Also have you researched TB 500 (Thymosine Beta 4) for injury healing?

    1. I'll look into TB 500. re: shin – less research on bone fx but worth a try…

  335. Joel says:

    This stuff really healed your elbow in a couple weeks? I would consider such a treatment if it was really that effective. I’ve got tennis elbow from the work I do and playing guitar that seems to be getting worse. How much(In theory) would I have to purchase for one elbow treatment?

    1. I'd get 1-2 5mg bottles for starters. You can store in freezer for up to 6 months…

  336. Francisco Aguiar says:

    Hi Ben, i broke my knee-cap a few months ago but it’s still healing, and it’s taking to long. I miss my squats and i still cannot play soccer. Do you think this would accelerate the healing process? And what would be the best way to use it? Orally, Intramuscularly, subcutaneously…?
    Sorry my english, i’m portuguese :p

    1. Less research on bone but you could try subQ injections around knee cap. I should clarify the fact that I am *not* a physician and this is *not* to be interpreted as medical advice. Please talk to a licensed medical professional about all of this!

  337. Chrissy K says:

    Ben- Would this be your first choice treatment for healing leaky gut?

    1. tough to say what "first choice" would be but I'd fix diet first of course!

      1. Katie says:

        I just ordered some to take (orally) for leaky gut. Do you still need to use BAC water if you’re not injecting it or can I use filtered water instead?

        1. Tom says:

          Hi Kate, thinking a out doing the same. Did you notice any benefit ? Side effects etc ? Would really appreciate an update !

    2. Chrissy K says:

      Ok. So what makes me nervous is that sometimes things that heal tissue also grow tissue and we can’t always choose which things. Like how l-glutamine is good for gut healing but is can also grow cancer cells right?

      I bought 2 bottles. I might freeze them until I hear more, but I’d like to fast track my gut healing and possibly help others because years of the autoimmune protocol diet is a high price to pay for some.

      Thank so much

  338. Erin says:

    Can you take it sublingually? Would you expect similarl results as Subq/IM since will be a entering the blood stream directly?

    1. Yes, sublingually = same thing as orally. But less localized delivery unless your focus is gut.

  339. Neil says:

    Kind of a ballsy post. I’ll pass.

  340. Tyler says:

    Interested in this for patella pain. Would you use a diabetic syringe or intramuscular for that area?

    1. I'd try Sub Q first. See above. Inject around joint. I am *not* a physician and this is *not* to be interpreted as medical advice. Please talk to a licensed medical professional about all of this!

    2. Steve says:

      What size syringe would I use for intramuscular on my hamstring

      1. same as I recommend above.

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